You certainly come off as angry. It seems you’re angry because you’re not getting what you want, so you keep spewing the bs and repeating yourself over and over in hopes it will get you what you want. It won’t.
This is just one big strawman and literally has nothing to do with the discussion at all. It's your claim that you talk to magic deities. I asked for evidence. Were you expecting people to be all "wow, you are so spiritual and God must be real!"?
Again, if a deity told you something beyond your intelligence maybe it's beyond everyones intelligence and you can give us some information that is beyond all out intelligence?
What I wanted was evidence OR for you to confirm that you are not actually speaking to anything except your subconscious mind in which case you would probably act exactly like this.
BTW, you are the angry person as evidenced by your string of ad-hom -(Your comments are mostly angry BS. They are close-minded and extremely self-righteous. Your words show signs of know-it-all-ism, which is really words of foolish-ism.)
If you don’t understand spirituality and know what I’ve been telling you, then too bad.
Spirituality is an undefined nebulous word. The best definition I have heard is it being about living the best life one can and from the highest ideals and virtues.
Praying to invisible deities to get to an afterlife and thinking you have the one correct version is the worst possible definition I've heard. Living through virtues for the sake of good would be a good definition. Doing the right thing because you are being watched by a King in the Sky who judges the amount of "sin-force" you have accumulated is not a good definition either.
If I did ask you to ask some questions for me and you responded by saying you don’t ask those types of questions, I would be respectful, say OK, and leave you alone. I wouldn’t spout out lectures, have a tantrum, and demand you comply with my request.
The only tantrum seems to be right here in your words. I asked for evidence. You then upped the claims and said you get things "beyond your intelligence". So I then asked about this new claim. So actually, you DID spout out more, not lectures but more anecdotal evidence.
Arguing about the argument is clear evidence that someone is upset. This isn't my line of questioning? So that leaves you.
Then why do you continue to demand that I communicate with a deity for you?
You continued to enter anecdotal evidence in a debate forum and you're having trouble figuring out why I would use a debate tactic?
I am not trying to get anywhere!
Good because you are going nowhere.
You say "bull" to the idea that there is open mindedness here. Please explain how one would respond with an open mind to such claims without sacrificing critical and rational thinking?
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told you I don’t ask those types of questions. How many times must I tell you? This is the last time, regardless.
Now it's just weird? The post you are responding to did not have these requests? I said if one makes claims then expect to be asked for evidence and somehow you are still 2 posts behind?
I never mentioned the word gullible. I don’t have to provide anything for you. All responses are voluntary, no matter what forum you’re on. I gave you the only explanations and answers about “evidence” that you’re going to get from me. Continuing your demands is not going to change that.
Uh, that's what I said it "seems" like you are confusing open-mindedness with gullible? Instead of nit-picking why don't you say something that would actually move things forward and explain what do you mean by open mindedness????????????
This is ANOTHER strawman?? You are responding to my response to your angry post? We are past that. It's clear you cannot provide any evidence to your claims. I'm not surprised. Can you move forward? Can you mount any type of evidence for any of this? Or were you just going to make claims and get upset when called out?
Are mortality rates supposed to be different? No. Everyone will die of something. Faith and prayer won’t change that.
So you are saying that prayer has no impact on death or rates of recovery from illness? Statistics do bear that out. If you don't believe that praying can have any effect on the outcome of illness then I would agree.
However you said that I "should be aware that others get answers" in prayer. So that answer can never be a healing?
So, just because we all die, that means God never answers a prayer? That’s complete BS, not to mention a cop-out. Just because someone fails get what they asked for or demanded from God, doesn’t mean that he doesn’t exist or doesn’t answer prayers. That is a spoiled brat concept.
Sorry, another strawman.
It has nothing to do with the fact everyone dies. I believe there is an assumption in religious circles that praying can sometimes alter the outcome of a serious illness. Obviously everyone will die but the assumption is that a deity can give a person a 2nd chance, push things in their favor, things of that nature.
Statistics would show if this was the case. A stage 3 specific type of cancer will have say a 40% mortality rate in a specific population. If we look at enough cases we will see 40% do indeed pass away. If a deity was helping a certain group of people out from this population then those statistics would be impossible to track in Christians or Muslims or whomever the deity was answering prayers for. 40% would not pass away the number would be lower due to answered prayer.
That doesn't happen.
Also large prayer studies have actually been done. They showed prayer was not effective as far as any type of healing or recovery.
Would you rather that I LIE to you, instead of telling you the TRUTH? It seems that you would rather believe in psychics or anyone who would tell you what you want to hear. I won’t give into your demands, therefore you think my experiences can’t be real. You are so quick to judge and make irrational conclusions.
I don't believe in psychics. I didn't demand, I asked for evidence. If I said I communicate with Thor but I cannot answer questions from you to prove it's real would you be "irrational" to either ask for evidence or claim you don't believe me? No. Why you want a special pass for your God I don't know. There is nothing irrational about what I've said.
A level? Another one of your interpretations. You make everything so complicated and it’s really very simple.
Again, instead of giving some kind of answer you are just attacking my words. This is misdirection and other techniques that I won't say. So you are saying it's "so simple" that some people get actual communication from a deity yet others who have devoted their entire lives and careers like Pastors, Cardinals and the Pope never speak of such communication?
Yes it's simple. When we pray to a deity, any deity, our minds give us the feeling that we are speaking to someone and that someone is listening. Any feelings generated we take as answers. This is not uncommon and found in Islam and Hinduism. Ex-Christians also speak of it commonly.
To you they are. You can keep your judgments, they are of no value to me.
I am assessing the evidence as presented. What is or isn't of value to you is not important. It's an open debate forum, different people will take it all in different ways. I don't even understand why you are commenting on this. I also don't understand why you have presented no further argument and are just going in circles? You haven't answered any points I raised?