Is the United States just not mature enough to deal with radical fringe madness?

[Shadow Wolf]

Trump even may have colluded with Russia. He said that he would. But no evidence for the collusion was found. There was evidence of obstruction. That does not sound

Mueller's report does basically does say a lot of stuff did indeed happen amd it did not exonerate him, however he couldn't directly pin it to Trump himself (but indeed many others were found guilty) so he's not formally guilty either.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That is the lamest evidence ever.
It appears to be just a mirthful barb.
But even if serious, it's not a solicitation.
There are plenty of crooked things about Trump.
Best to stick to what's real...not what's imagined.

Mueller's Report shows he probably did actively pursue such a thing, or at least at the very minimum others did on his behalf.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That is the lamest evidence ever.
It appears to be just a mirthful barb.
But even if serious, it's not a solicitation.
There are plenty of crooked things about Trump.
Best to stick to what's real...not what's imagined.

If it was a joke it was an incredibly stupid one. One think that I have found is that you can never underestimate Trump's lack of intelligence.


And let's not forget. He did obstruct justice during the investigation. Why would one do that?

 

[Revoltingest]

Mueller's Report shows he probably did actively pursue such a thing, or at least at the very minimum others did on his behalf.

You don't sound so certain of this claim.
I recall no one citing any portion of the
report supporting the accusation.
Get real people....don't latch onto
unevidenced conspiracy theories.

 

[Revoltingest]

If it was a joke it was an incredibly stupid one.

It's Trump.

One think that I have found is that you can never underestimate Trump's lack of intelligence.

Even if he is intelligent, he's not one to
carefully consider what he says or does.

And let's not forget. He did obstruct justice during the investigation. Why would one do that?

It's his standard practice.
Again, it's not evidence.

 

[Quagmire]

When I was growing up (in the 1960s, 70s and 80s) the nation could always manage to cope -- to deal with the radical fringe, to cope with the loonies, . . .

Hence Kent State.

 

[paarsurrey]

Isn't it a phenomenon as foretold by the Second Coming, please?:

“Yajuj [Gog] and Majuj [Magog] are two peoples who have been mentioned in earlier scriptures. The reason why they are so called is that they make extensive use of Ajij [fire], and would reign supreme on earth and dominate every height. At the same time, a great change will be ordained from heaven and will usher in days of peace and amity” (Lecure Sialkot, Ruhani Khazain, Volume 20, Page 211) written in 1904
https://www.alislam.org/urdu/rk/Ruhani-Khazain-Vol-20.pdf#page=237

And:

“I have also proved that it is essential for the Promised Messiah to appear at the time of Gog and Magog. Since Ajij, from which the words Gog and Magog are derived, means ‘fire’, God Almighty has disclosed to me that Gog and Magog are a people who are greater experts in the use of fire than any other people. Their very names indicate that their ships, trains and machines will be run by fire. They will fight their battles with fire. They will excel all other people in harnessing fire to their service. This is why they will be called Gog and Magog. These are the people of the West, as they are unique in their expertise in the use of fire. In Jewish scriptures too it was the people of Europe who were described as Gog and Magog. Even the name of Moscow, which is the ancient capital of Russia, is mentioned. Thus it was preordained that the Promised Messiah would appear in the time of Gog and Magog.”(Ayyam-us-Sulh, Ruhani Khazain, Volume 14, Pages 424-425) written in 1899
https://www.alislam.org/urdu/rk/Ruhani-Khazain-Vol-14.pdf
Right?
_____________
AhmadiAnswers | Dajjal And Gog And Magog

So, both contending world super powers, Gog (Russia) and Magog (America) have melted like mountains of salt. Right?

Regards

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You don't sound so certain of this claim.
I recall no one citing any portion of the
report supporting the accusation.
Get real people....don't latch onto
unevidenced conspiracy theories.

I've provided links to it in the past.
It's not that I'm uncertain, things did happen. The only uncertainty is the exact extent Trump himself was involved with thia collusion, but most definitely others did act on his behalf.

 

[Heyo]

And how many of them consider themselves "law-and-order Republicans?"

Does it matter? Judging from the small sample size of self selected participants that is RF, all of them. But there are people on the left who at least dislike the legal system if not outright disrespect it. Case in point: SCotUS.
And maybe they are right. The legal system of the US might already be broken beyond repair.

 

[Colt]

If I recall, Trump -- in the very presence of Vladimir Putin (who has bigger hands, by the way) -- declared that he believed the Russian dictator over his own intelligence service. On television, on air, for all the world to see.

Sour grapes? I rather suspect if he'd wanted one, Putin could have got himself a BJ.

The Left take themselves too seriously and Trump exploits that. Trump jokes around a lot.

 

[Colt]

Shooting the messenger is the sign of a weaker mind. It's easily found on many other sources. Trump did endanger military personal, and not just American. Because of his loose lips England quit sharing intel with America. That's not good.

And believing everything Trumps enemies tell you is a sign of ______! There is a leak in the accusation by invisible sources.

 

[Colt]

I tire of the left & the right using each other as
an excuse for their own to commit illegal acts.
This race to the bottom yields bad government.

Politics is an emotional arena all on its own. Thats not unique to American democracy or fake democracies like Russia where Stalin still has a surprisingly high approval rating. Personally, I wish Trump would go away, but the "sudden concern" about every minutia of the law by people on the Left is laughable!

 

[Subduction Zone]

Politics is an emotional arena all on its own. Thats not unique to American democracy or fake democracies like Russia where Stalin still has a surprisingly high approval rating. Personally, I wish Trump would go away, but the "sudden concern" about every minutia of the law by people on the Left is laughable!

Wow! That is the first time that I have heard a fomenting of an insurrection described as a legal minutia.

 

[Colt]

An article on CNN by the interim chair of the DNC about how Clinton bought her candidacy. The (D)'s were left with a bad choice. Trump was a virtual unknown in terms of a political leader.


Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC

When I was asked to run the Democratic Party after the Russians hacked our emails, I stumbled onto a shocking truth about the Clinton campaign.


By DONNA BRAZILE


November 02, 2017



"I had to keep my promise to Bernie. I was in agony as I dialed him. Keeping this secret was against everything that I stood for, all that I valued as a woman and as a public servant.

“Hello, senator. I’ve completed my review of the DNC and I did find the cancer,” I said. “But I will not kill the patient.”


I told Bernie I had found Hillary’s Joint Fundraising Agreement. I explained that the cancer was that she had exerted this control of the party long before she became its nominee. Had I known this, I never would have accepted the interim chair position, but here we were with only weeks before the election.

Bernie took this stoically. He did not yell or express outrage. Instead he asked me what I thought Hillary’s chances were. The polls were unanimous in her winning but what, he wanted to know, was my own assessment?

I had to be frank with him. I did not trust the polls, I said. I told him I had visited states around the country and I found a lack of enthusiasm for her everywhere. I was concerned about the Obama coalition and about millennials."

Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC


IMOP

 

[Revoltingest]

I've provided links to it in the past.

I recall none convincing.
All you guys offer is faint puffs of smoke suggesting the possibility.
This is lame.
Concentrate on what's real....& worse...
The guy fomented insurrection where many were injured & killed !!!!
He stole classified documents...nuclear secrets !!!!
Don't distract from that with fantasies of no import.

Geeze Louise...it's like you're playing into the hands
of his cult, ie, giving them an easy straw man to burn.

 

[Revoltingest]

Politics is an emotional arena all on its own. Thats not unique to American democracy or fake democracies like Russia where Stalin still has a surprisingly high approval rating. Personally, I wish Trump would go away, but the "sudden concern" about every minutia of the law by people on the Left is laughable!

Sudden? They've been after him since 2016.
And only cuz he's on the other side.
Still....they're headed in a cromulent direction,
even if their motives are suspect.

We need more politicians tried, convicted, &
imprisoned, especially Presidents. It would
send the proper message.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Didn't you say on another thread that you were a gay prostitute in Canada?

Yes, I did, in the 1960s, when at 17 the Children's Aid dumped me on the streets with nothing, too little education, not fully over an abusive youth, and emotionally still fragile.

I'm not proud of it, but I'm not ashamed either. I'm not a personal fan of starving and freezing to death in a Toronto winter (I did sleep in a garage without even a coat Christmas and New Year 1965). Hope you'll understand my feelings on that.

 

[Colt]

Yes, I did, in the 1960s, when at 17 the Children's Aid dumped me on the streets with nothing, too little education, not fully over an abusive youth, and emotionally still fragile.

I'm not proud of it, but I'm not ashamed either. I'm not a personal fan of starving and freezing to death in a Toronto winter (I did sleep in a garage without even a coat Christmas and New Year 1965). Hope you'll understand my feelings on that.

That sounds like an awful, unjust and unfair circumstance. You had mentioned you thought Trump would have given Putin a bj if he wanted one. I doubt that about Trump.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

That sounds like an awful, unjust and unfair circumstance. You had mentioned you thought Trump would have given Putin a bj if he wanted one. I doubt that about Trump.

It has been my observation that Trump has an unhealthy fascination for strong-arm dictators. The suggestion addressed that with a certain amount of tonque-in-cheek hyperbole.

 

[Colt]

It has been my observation that Trump has an unhealthy fascination for strong-arm dictators. The suggestion addressed that with a certain amount of tonque-in-cheek hyperbole.

Trump is a weird guy! I think he felt like he could reason with people like Putin or Kim Jung.