Colt
Well-Known Member
LoL! ABC news in their report quoting "unnamed sources" as usual, just revealed that there is an Israeli spy in ISIS!
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Is the United States just not mature enough to deal with radical fringe madness?
- Thread starter Evangelicalhumanist
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In fact, there are quite specific laws making it ILLEGAL for him to take them. It's called "The Presidential Records Act." But it would seem @cOLTER objects to the President being held accountable to the law. Maybe he sees Trump as somehow superhuman, angelic, far above we mere mortals.
But eventually, somebody is going to notice that all these "law-and-order" champions are anything (possibly everything) but.
As do I. If there was real evidence against Hillary, it should have been presented to a grand jury and let them decide to indict. As she was never elevated to divinity (sorry, I mean Presidency) that should not have been a problem
But for some reason, Trump's own Justice Department couldn't bring themselves to do it. Was it that there may not have been something indictable? I mean, all it takes is, "here's what the law says, here's the evidence...."
According to the Presidential Records Act, it does not matter in the slightest whether they were secret or not. The Presidentiasl Records Act DEMANDS that at 12:01 on the last day of his presidency, all such records, secret or not, must be delivered to the National Archives.
It is not ambiguous about this.
Colt
Well-Known Member
He's not above the law, I just see all the drama-queenery for what it is! Trump really chapped the *** of the Left for those 4 years. The fake Russian collusion scam didn't work and that just eats up the hateful Left!
Colt
Well-Known Member
Hummmmm? Put Trump in Jail? What effect do you think that might have on his followers?
She was still political royalty, & so escaped
consequences that bedevil us little folk.
Navy sailor has excuse for mishandling 'classified' material that should make Hillary Clinton proud
Clinton's Handling of Classified Information - FactCheck.org
Colt
Well-Known Member
"FBI Director James Comey said more than 2,000 emails contained classified information and some of them “bore markings indicating the presence of classified information.”
Another reason that the Right is inclined to ignore Trumps behavior is that we've been experiencing a double standard for so long that we might not really care anymore. As secretary of State Clinton ran an off the grid email exchange without consequences because she's a (D). Everyone in Washington is a (D). Most everyone in the media is a (D).
Yet, it does seem that Russia did indeed interfere in the 2016 election -- and very likely in later ones, too. Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia
Heyo
Veteran Member
You may be right on that one. Many US citizens don't care about the law any more.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Going by ABC's record it is probably true. There is a reason that one uses unnamed sources for claims like this. If the source was known and named it would put the source in danger. And it might also put the spy in danger. The odds are that ISIS already knew that there was a spy among them, otherwise just releasing that news would increase the risk to the spy. In face we, the general public, are probably the last to know when it comes to news like this.
And how many of them consider themselves "law-and-order Republicans?"
Colt
Well-Known Member
I don’t doubt Russian interference, America has been manipulating elections around the world for ages. The claim was that Trump worked with Russia to win the 2016 election. It was just sour grapes.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
How can you watch these commentators? I find them immediately irritating.
This isn't news, it's just some guys opinion on the internet and why should we care about his opinion?
If I recall, Trump -- in the very presence of Vladimir Putin (who has bigger hands, by the way) -- declared that he believed the Russian dictator over his own intelligence service. On television, on air, for all the world to see.
Sour grapes? I rather suspect if he'd wanted one, Putin could have got himself a BJ.
I tire of the left & the right using each other as
an excuse for their own to commit illegal acts.
This race to the bottom yields bad government.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No, it wasn't. Trump was stupid enough to say that if the Russians offered him illegal documents on Hillary that he would take them. In other words he openly stated that he would collude with Russia. When the investigation occurred he was he obstructed the investigation as much as possible. That alone was an impeachable offense. He was never cleared of obstruction. In fact a court has ruled that Barr improperly withheld evidence of Trump's obstruction in the investigation:
The DOJ under Barr wrongly withheld parts of a Russia probe memo, a court rules
A year later, a federal judge sharply rebuked Barr's handling of Mueller's report, saying Barr had made "misleading public statements" to spin the investigation's findings in favor of Trump and had shown a "lack of candor."
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Bill Barr won't back a 2024 Trump run but doesn't quite condemn his former boss
Friday's appeals court decision said the internal Justice Department memo noted that "Mueller had declined to accuse President Trump of obstructing justice but also had declined to exonerate him." The internal memo said "the Report's failure to take a definitive position could be read to imply an accusation against President Trump" if released to the public, the court wrote.
Trump even may have colluded with Russia. He said that he would. But no evidence for the collusion was found. There was evidence of obstruction. That does not sound like the acts of an innocent man.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Shooting the messenger is the sign of a weaker mind. It's easily found on many other sources. Trump did endanger military personal, and not just American. Because of his loose lips England quit sharing intel with America. That's not good.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
That is not only "not good" that tells us that they knew Trump was a more severe liability to their nation than the threats that they would have avoided by sharing intelligence. It tells us that the White House was probably leaking like a sieve when it came to intelligence.
That is the lamest evidence ever.
It appears to be just a mirthful barb.
But even if serious, it's not a solicitation.
There are plenty of crooked things about Trump.
Best to stick to what's real...not what's imagined.