Well, we've got commonsense and science on our side. I looked it up. Even the scientists who think spanking does little or no harm place so many restrictions on what they consider spanking that you might as well say their kind of spanking seldom happens in real life. For instance, Shireen, spanking to them is no more than two open handed swats to the butt that do not produce pain. Do not produce pain? Gimme a break! When people spank their kids, they want to produce pain.