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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    Beautiful. Fact. You're just pushing the problem aside. Now you need to know why God created a universe where square circles are impossible if that causes suffering. There are zero possible reasons for an omnipotent God to encounter a problem that forced him to create a universe where...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    If you have a soul do you need food? I'm not judging you, i'm judging your beliefs. If you feel that there is no difference between you and your beliefs i can do nothing about it. Beliefs are utterly worthless and i'm intolerant against them, because the world overflows with phenomenons...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    How can you believe something you don't even know? How can you believe something that trascends your reason. What are you believing? Everything you know about him is false as he's beyond reason. I'm just visualizing a human being dying, thinking that god transcends our conceptions of reason...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    I know nothing about you, neither i meant that you don't love the people you love, or that you're not loved back, or that your love lacks something, not even remotely. But you're a Christian, and no Christian knows love at its purest. There is no God there. No scripture will ever answer any...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    Is logic a limitation for him? Does God need to obey the laws of logic? God is perfect, therefore that would mean that being basically good is perfection. If your son or daughter end up in hell you shouldn't love them no more and feel no compassion, because you wouldn't be as perfect as...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    A God that is nothing but love must be forced into a bathroom and then used as toilet paper, and that too would be out of compassion. Known the taste of love, which you have not yet, the idea of a God that is nothing but love disappears, and it is not possible for it to come back. Whoever...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    So, God isn't needed for time to exist? The only reason because God is not dead now is that he doesn't exist. So, what reasons do you have not to be sure he doesn't exist? What reasons do you have to consider the Abrahamic God as they describe him logically coherent? He is...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    God can't be the same thing as time because time is distorted by gravitation and in some regions of the universe it may not even exist, and if they appeared together, time is indipendent from God, so he wasn't needed to create time. GOD IS DEAD!!! MAN IS FREE!!! Then why would you care...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    Are theologies of an omnipotent God useful then? You can look at it with this point of view: a purpose of those discourses could be sending your mind into such a irreversible, painful overdrive that there is no way out but a profound dissociation disorder.
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    If God has begun to exist when time began to exist, then he must have been created. If God and time began to exist at the same time, God is not needed for time to exist, neither he created time. But if a conscious awareness doesn't need God to exist, from your point of view you could say...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    I don't have the wakefulness i need now, and i can't find coffee anywhere. Most important contribution to the thread yet, deserves a night of deep sleep. Thank you.
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    Logic needs objects to exist in a certain dimension. God is not omnipotent over Logic, therefore God is made at the image of logic, but Logic is a pure void with no contents if there is no existence before. So existence is needed to shape that Logic, that will then shape God who has no power...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    No, it just demonstrated that observations were wrong, or that there were no observation at all of a certain phenomenon because there were no instruments available yet. You can write down a completely wrong, profoundly logical scientific model if the observations are wrong.
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    God may have no morality. If you believe he existed before creation, he used to be utterly alone somewhere in time, as existence had a beginning and he had not and morality needs more than one entity to exist. Also if God always existed either existence has always been there, or is...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    If Logic exists indipendently from God, you're assuming that things can actually exists outside God, or before God, or without being created, and you make the hypotesys of God useless. Logic exists independently from God, why not life which is a much more profound phenomenon? Logic is a subset...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    Suffering is about your perception of reality, you can call suffering a perception, but you're only moving backwards and refining your analysis, without solving the problem that God gave you this perception in his omnipotence and omnibenevolence.
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    But logical problems can't be found in books that know the boundaries beyond which only darkness remains, and Christians pretend those books are all false. I can't locate this statement anywhere in the Bible, and glimpses of the brahman, as you name it, can be found in telephone books too. A...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    Likewise peace in a world where every country has nuclear weapons is not really peace, as it's peace out of fear and not out of love, tolerance is sacred if it comes out of love and not of fear, as sacred as the profoundly social attitude to be glad to throw one's beliefs down the toilet when...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    God is aware that it will cause suffering. He is omniscient. Even not knowing completely the reason that God follows to create things, which is strange, because if logic is higher than God we could understand him, as logic is a brain phenomenon that begins, occurs and ends inside matter, at...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    I love stories like this one. :) Each culture and religion has its own metaphors and you really get your imagination wandering around the earth. But God could keep running on the pitch to get the ball without running on the pitch, or not render a game meaningless and rendering it meaningless...
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