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    Genesis,where did the other Guys come from

    How interesting Eml!!! I posted somewhere recently about the giant people who lived near Mount Hermon Lebanon/Israel/Syria border where the sweet waters of the Jordan river come from and where the 200 fallen angels are said to have arrived in disgrace according to the Boook of Enoch with no way...
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    Genesis,where did the other Guys come from

    I think every nation has its founding chief. Some are getting rooted out now in the Middle East. So there prob was an 'Adam' listening to an 'angel'. Mohammed saw but heard mostly Gabriel. Israel are led by Asriel, possibly Mikel. These are local chaps. Whether they existed or not is the real...
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    Genesis,where did the other Guys come from

    Local legends usually have a basis in fact but after centuries of chinese whispers that fish tends to get bigger and the fisherman more heroic. There probably was a historic Adam and I think his grave is in Lebanon and will one day be found but it predates writing so we wont know for sure. we...
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    Why I'd argue meat-eating in and of itself isn't immoral

    I recall that Gandhi would sleep naked with his grandaughter? Indira, this was to enable him to transcend desire. Eating meat to transcend it. this is like watching porn to transcend it. Killing someone to transcend violence. Sinning to transcend sin. I remember in the early 70's a hippy friend...
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    Genesis,where did the other Guys come from

    Although we are all here now in 2011 we are living very different lives, in vastly different places, circumstances and culture. My life has nothing in common with a fisherman in Cuba or an Eskimo or a miner in China. Some of us have long leisurely lives, others live in terror. So would it not be...
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    Why I'd argue meat-eating in and of itself isn't immoral

    Hi P2bg Not really comparing them, linking them. My posts are a product of garbled rants. Hunting I particularly detest as I live in England and was brought up going to Hunt Balls. We have a fox family that lives in our garden why would anyone set a pack of dogs loose on them. But I can...
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    Hello from a Déanist!

    I am still looking for the one who is neither male nor female, and I dont mean both. But I still recall the day I was told that Mother Earthn was pregnant again and would give birth to another moon out of the San Andreas fault soon. That this is how moons are born. Jupiter has a red spot and...
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    Why I'd argue meat-eating in and of itself isn't immoral

    Why stop at particular meats? You could eat each other when you die, and rats and cats when they die. Why kill them? they will die sometime - eat them then like the carrion you are. Or open your eyes to what you are really eating. It is not a nice lamb chop. it is the rib of a terrified and...
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    Genesis,where did the other Guys come from

    Adapa like Adam is confronted with two foods and told by one angel they are forbdden and another that they are highly recommended, grown for the gods use (lest they become like ....). Both make the wrong decision and are cursed with disease. What I was pointing out is that this is where the tale...
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    Genesis,where did the other Guys come from

    Nachash is the Hebrew word we translate as serpent, but nachash means 'shining one'. Moses made a 'nachash' of brass. (There is a historical Moses - Pharaoh Thothmoses 2, brought up by the Queen Hatshepsut around 1500BC, did not reign long after T1 died, vanished and was succeeded by Hatshepsut...
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    Genesis,where did the other Guys come from

    The serpent at this time was not evil, which was a Christian concept. It was a Sumerian tale anyway but in Canaan the serpent was the god Eshmun (In the Bible Adam's name was Ish and Eve was Ishshah before the expulsion). In the Sumerian tale (bear in mind Abraham is Sumerian at birth) their...
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    Genesis,where did the other Guys come from

    We all share a common ancestor dont we. That person is not a myth, they existed, survived and bred. The Neanderthals did not, nor the giants who lived in Java and left teeth and a jawbone. You cant blame Genesis for not knowing that the people Cain (a literal person if we have one common...
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    What is Karma?

    I should add that on a planetary scale the 'spirits or ka's' of the human race are a male and female angel identified with 'God' who appears to have long white hair and a beard, and Lucifer, or Venus, the morning star and bringer of light. It was really Venus (or Eve) who tempted Adam away from...
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    What is Karma?

    Karma is much more than the above in the real sense and needs to be seen in context. Ancient Egyptians had the ka, your spirit born fully formed when you are born a baby. This is who you really are when you take the whole of your life into account. If you think of say Moses, this is who we mean...
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    the life after death..- are we all equal?

    I have very little time today but thank you for this illuminating reply. I know only a little about Gabriel from the Book of Enoch. I think he is very important as he dictated the rules followed by most of this world. However are we all equal after death? It is an interesting question quite...
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    Was it fair to kick Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden?

    Was it fair to kick out Adam and Eve? There is a modern dilemma which may provide the answer. Since we have an enormous brain but use only 10% it is strange nature did not shrink it, we could manage with a snake sized brain most of us. It is equivalent to having a powerful computer but limited...
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    Was it fair to kick Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden?

    I do not doubt the antiquity of home sapiens. Genesis mentions them before Adam. I am just popinting out that Adam may have been albino. When Stanley was searching for Livingstone in africa he was taken to a white man who was in fact an albino. The Africans considered the albinos to be special...
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    Was it fair to kick Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden?

    It is quite likely that the first redman might be a genetic abnormality (ie caused by God') around 4000BC the date we are generally given for Adam. If not the first albino say then the first recorded by his descendants. His descendants were also burned red in the sun, or some with his gene were...
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    the life after death..- are we all equal?

    Eselam thank you for your brilliant reply. I am so pleased there are women in Paradise! My experience in life has taught me not to discuss my other wives with any of them. They will all want bigger and better houses in Paradise than the others. You are an excellent ambassador for Islam...
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    Was it fair to kick Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden?

    Hi lasion I think you are right. I want to quote something in the original (the oldest bilbilical texts are around 300BC edescribing 4000BC for the Garden tale). The author of days one to six, the priestly author as he is called uses the word 'bara'for the divine action of making man. The author...
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