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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    Hmm, how exactly are you involved in my conversation with him again? Not that I mind if you have something to contribute, but he is already speaking for himself and doing a more than adequate job.
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    There is more then enough evidence to prove God exists.

    Say are you going to get around to persuading me god is more likely anytime soon?
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    The theory is that if you were truly and wholly content, you would lack any motivation to change that state and so would not be doing anything. But no one has that level of contentment and we do things for lots of reasons and often capriciously as well. However I strongly suspect that you...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    How nice we can agree on this. GIGO. Hinging another term on a meaningless term just means it to is meaningless. Turtles all the way down, don't you know. How should I know why you went there? Seems like you should bother to learn a bit about me first before trying to insult me. Luckily...
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    There is more then enough evidence to prove God exists.

    JC said precisely when he was coming back and the time for that expired a long, long, long time ago. So either he lied; or, he did come back and got the lucky ones and you are just one of the damned. Interesting dilemma.
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    There is more then enough evidence to prove God exists.

    No. You are trying to make claims of knowledge for which the people who wrote the bible just plain did not have. You are also equivocating the term dust to the point that it means anything. Further, dust does not form life - it lacks water and other necessary elements and energy. Life most...
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    There is more then enough evidence to prove God exists.

    Why in deed? Why would a god need to incarnate himself by impregnating another man's betrothed and then start a new religion to persecute his chosen people by having himself tortured to death, in his name. All so he can forgive people about a sin that he set them up for in the first place...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    You confuse the referent with the term. The referent of the term sun was in the sky before there were words. But before the term "sun" was used to refer to the big hot thing in the sky, the term "sun" was meaningless and it would have ben absurd to use it. Consider the term "jergzol." It hasn't...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    No. An evil god is the clear end result of what you say. You just don't bother to consider the full implications of your dogma. Then the term is absurd and meaningless. We have full agreement there. Fantasy terms can work well in a fantasy context. But even here these terms are only good...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    You don't need to be given the ability to sympathize. Sympathy has clear evolutionary advantages in social species like humans or wolves and naturally develops over time as part of the group dynamic. Such an unpleasant world you living.
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    If I walk along a path and a branch falls and hits me; that is just a chance event of nature and no evil has befallen me. But if God causes the branch to hit me; that is an act of evil because he is intentionally causing me harm. In the xtian myth god has through his omniscience and...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    So you believe in an evil god? So you are happy that god created all the horrors, injuries, every sort of mutilation and betrayal and then gave us the ability to fully anticipate, grasp, feel and linger in the anguish of these misfortunes? That's pretty dark there. I guess he really is...
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    Why do religious adherents claim that extremists aren't a part of their religion?

    Ok, now that is some serious humble.
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    There is more then enough evidence to prove God exists.

    Because "god" is the most unlikely claim of all; adding god to any claim makes it less likely. Take the claim "unicorns." If you make it "unicorns and god;" you have now made it less likely. You did say you understand logic right? Fundamentally, the proof for a being is the being itself...
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    There is more then enough evidence to prove God exists.

    So have JC pop by if he exists. So here is an easy one. It is genetically impossible that all humanity derived from a single couple 6000 years ago.
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    There is more then enough evidence to prove God exists.

    Yeah, he said he would be back for every one before the last of his generation had died, so I guess he was lying on that one.
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    So you believe in an evil god then? The triple Omni definition of god is a pretty standard one. Standard enough that it predates xtianity by at least a couple hundred years. What do you propose for the qualities of god then? Of course not. They are pretend qualities for a pretend deity...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    So god just chooses to be blind and stupid and impotent when its convenient for him? Wouldn't that be evil?
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    I don't see knowing as a subset of power. Nor have I seen it presented that way before. But I'm willing to hear you out. Explain it please. For example the sun is the most omnipotent object near by. How is it omniscient? Since god is fundamentally just a made up term, it's not really...
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    A omnipotent, omnibenevolent God and human beings suffering

    Why does there have to be a point? Removing omniscience also removes one of the three pillars that make him a good god and not just a destructive force of nature running amok. It also makes him straight up evil, but that would be one of his minor evil deeds.
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