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  1. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Rev 19:11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is...
  2. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    I keep doing that.
  3. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    "Lord of Hosts" is actually "Yahweh of Hosts". Now it seems that Baha'u'llah is not only the Ancient of Days but is also Yahweh.
  4. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    I marvel at their naivety (or the naivety of those who know the Bible and still become Baha'i.) They actually must first believe that Baha'u'llah is whom he claims to be or they would not just accept his claims that the description of the returning Jesus in the Bible is false and it really won't...
  5. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    The meaning of "clouds" and "resurrection" was already known. You like to think that you have narrowed it down to a few verses in Acts 1 which plainly say that it is 'the same Jesus' the disciples saw ascending, and then throw dirt at those verses as if that makes those verses untrue. However...
  6. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    But you said that the messengers were the best proof for who they are. That is saying that the wilderness and solitary place and desert shall blossom and rejoice and they shall see the glory of Lebanon and excellency of Carmel and Sharon, the glory of the LORD and excellency of God. Carmel...
  7. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Not being Jesus is a big problem for Baha'u'llah since the prophecies are that Jesus is the one who is coming back. You do not know the secret name of the Word who is on the white horse (Rev 19:11-16), the one who is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. But hang on, the King of Kings and Lord...
  8. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    The false Christ teachings come from the plain teachings of the New Testament. Those teachings are ones that you have to say are false and that Baha'u'llah has to deny the plain meaning of. No but I think that once Baha'is did check the Bible they should realise that Baha'u'llah is not whom he...
  9. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Psalm 2:6 “I have installed my king on Zion, my holy mountain.” 7 I will proclaim the Lord’s decree: He said to me, “You are my son; today I have become your father. 8 Ask me, and I will make the nations your inheritance, the ends of the earth your possession. 9 You will break...
  10. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Saying that there are certain verses in the New Testament which are untrue because you accept the teachings of Baha'u'llah is the same as denying the truth of the Bible. And we know that it is a lot more than a verse here and there. It is so much that it is enough to deny the gospel message that...
  11. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Jesus did give a new commandment, that we should love one another as He loved us. (John 13:34-35) This was not a new law however as to love God and our neighbour are said by Jesus to be the most important laws given through Moses. (Matthew 22:34-40) So we find that there is not really any new...
  12. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Zion is never Mount Carmel of Haifa etc. You seem to have a heart felt faith but you are leaving your brain out of the equation. See 2Kings 21:7, 2Chronicles 7:16, 1Chron 23:25 in most translations 1Chron 23:25 For David said, “The LORD, the God of Israel, has given rest to his people, and he...
  13. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    The Jews of Jesus time were told the lie that the body was stolen by the disciples. Anyone who believed the preaching, that Jesus was resurrected and had been seen by the disciples, knew that Jesus was approved of by God. Your argument shows nothing but maybe also that you believe the lie about...
  14. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Yup
  15. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Resurrection and clouds and come to mind straight away. I have answered these in a post I did today. The bottom line is that I need Baha'u'llah to be the same Jesus, to be Jesus returned the same way the disciples saw Him ascend before I will accept him to be the return of Jesus. And yes...
  16. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Sorry if I used the wrong word to describe Baha'i which is a religion.
  17. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Yes it is just a complete denial of the Bible, trying to change the meaning of the plain English into something figurative. Abdul Baha seems to be trying to explaining the meaning John 2:19-22 and try to make it mean something else. John 2:19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I...
  18. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Maybe you should read the article you posted including the Bible quote links and see that they are referring to Zion and the City of Jerusalem and there is nothing about Mt Carmel there. It is all in the wishful thinking of Baha'i and Baha'u'llah and it misses the truth of the Bible by a mile.
  19. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    :)I am attached by the Spirit of Christ to the Body of Christ, which is the Church, but there is a lot more than the resurrection body of Jesus which Baha'u'llah got wrong, including not actually being Jesus. Interestingly Revelations 19:11-16 about Jesus (the Word) has a name on Him that nobody...
  20. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Literally Mt Zion is the mountain of the house of the Lord, the Temple that used to stand there. The prophecy starts: Isa 2:1 This is what Isaiah son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem: Mt Carmel is not in the land of the tribe of Judah and not near Jerusalem.
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