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  1. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Well Baha'u'llah has his grave in Israel. It is a stretch to say that he is established in Israel. Baha'is pick and choose verses that they think show that Baha'u'llah is whom he claims to be. They ignore the verses that show that Baha'u'llah is not whom he claims to be and say that they are...
  2. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    I don't think I mentioned any particular quotes from Shoghi or Abdul Baha or the Universal House of Justice etc. The point is that Baha'i denies the truthfulness of parts of the Bible and in so doing, spreads lies about the Jesus of the Bible and who He is. This is done in order to try to show...
  3. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Forget the Bible and Jesus and His everlasting gospel and eternal covenant and Lordship, just read 153 short meditations by Baha'u'llah and it is covered.
  4. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    I am not judging Baha'is, as you know. I am judging the truthfulness of what is taught in Baha'i about who Baha'u'llah is. The Baha'i faith devalues the Bible and teaches that it is wrong about Jesus and the gospel. The fruit of Baha'i is that it turns people from the truth of the Bible and...
  5. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    It is strange to say that "all" the prophecies have been fulfilled and then to say that they have not all been fulfilled. Christians say that Jesus is still to fulfil prophecies, but Jesus rose from the dead and so is alive and ascended to heaven and has received an everlasting Kingdom (Daniel...
  6. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    He is relevant for everyone even if not relevant to a lot of people.
  7. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    You are right. I don't think I have seen a statement from the Bab or Baha'u'llah that proclaims that the Bible is not the truth. It is their teachings that in places completely disagrees with what the Bible says however. I have read others (Shoghi Effendi, Abdul Baha) who are more open in...
  8. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    My pov is that Jesus fulfilled the Law and prophets and that Muhammad and Baha'u'llah plagiarized the Torah and Bible and denied a lot of the Torah and Bible.
  9. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    No they don't really believe they are following the Bible. There is so much of the Bible that they deny, they cannot believe they are following it. They know they are following Baha'u'llah at the expense of what the Bible says.
  10. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    The little church I attend has prophets who proclaim the Word of God to the world. If I do not know what the gospel is from the Bible then I would not know what a true prophet should be proclaiming.
  11. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    If Baha'u'llah has fulfilled all the prophecies for the return of Christ then you are actually saying that the Bible is wrong since the Bible has prophecies that Baha'u'llah has not fulfilled. Point to a prophecy that has been fulfilled by Baha'u'llah.
  12. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    It is God, through Bible prophecies, who has set the standard for the return of Christ. Baha'is say they agree with that standard, but Baha'u'lla fulfils none of the prophecies. It is worse than that, Baha'u'llah does the exact opposite of some of the prophecies. The Baha'i answer for this is...
  13. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    I just go by what the Bible says and based on that Muhammad and the Bab and Baha'u'llah are false prophets.
  14. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    You have it back to front. It is what the Bible tells me which helps me to identify who is a true or false prophet. If the Bible and Jesus say that Jesus died on a cross and rose again and then Muhammad says that Jesus did not die on a cross and rise again, I know that Muhammad is a false...
  15. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    My perspective is that of someone who believes the Bible and that it is God's Word and that it is the truth. Muhammad and Baha'u'llah and the Bab have no problem in claiming that the Bible is not the truth. In fact they build themselves up by claiming that the Bible is wrong in what it says and...
  16. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    I made no such statement that it did not matter if they do not accept the Bible or Jesus. I have not changed my stance. Show me what I said that makes you think that I have changed my stance.
  17. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Why do you think that anyone who identifies another prophet has identified a true prophet?
  18. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Afaik Arab Christians call God Allah, which is just Arab for God. Baha'is use the word for God that is used in any language. With Bahai's it is about who Baha'u'llah is and whether he fits Biblical prophecies of the return of Christ. Ahmadiyyas? I don't know of them. LDS use the same word for...
  19. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    The Church has the prophetic message from God to share with the world. I don't need to identify any one in particular.
  20. Brian2

    True and False Prophets - Just and Honest Determination

    Muhammad denies the gospel of Jesus because the gospel and the OT prophecies required the death of the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world by His death. Muhammad says that Jesus was not killed or crucified. Do you deny this? Do you see how this means that the gospel of Jesus is...
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