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  1. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    I did not see this before but I consider it highly objectional, and a violation of RF's rules of conduct. Ad hominem attacks are not sanctioned or permitted, and one of the reasons I like posting here, as opposed to some other forums is the fact that this forum is moderated. Please...attack...
  2. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    I am once again REPEATING our prior conversation (see above), much like I and many other Christians have had to do before. Why? Because of your response. Here it is: Your ORIGINAL argument stated "The body of Christ" in Romans 7 is not in reference to the Church here...." But your subsequent...
  3. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    This is another response which you mistook for an answer: Here you did quite well 3rdAngel! You come out gangbusters, asking the right questions, but not giving us an answer to any of them! Let's go through it: Who labored during the creation week was it God or man? Well that would...
  4. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Nothing in either of these links "proves" any such thing at all as has already been demonstrated in #3064, #3074, and #3076. Scripture shows your understand of Romans 7 is not biblical. I agree with you totally. I've noticed other Christians on this forum have had to do the same. You confuse...
  5. Oeste

    Thank you for the winner frubal at Where is the Commandment that say God's 4th Commandment is...

    Thank you for the winner frubal at Where is the Commandment that say God's 4th Commandment is abolished? :)
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  6. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Have a great New Years everybody! I pray 2024 will be a good year for all. I have a full day tomorrow (at work, right after church and lunch unfortunately) but will get back as soon as I can. ~ Oeste
  7. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Continuing with Romans 7.. 5For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. Well, this is a bummer, isn't it? All the law did was arouse a certain type of passion, and yet you claim we should follow the...
  8. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    While the "body of Christ" can certainly refer to Christ's death on the cross, your heretical view that it doesn't apply to the Church is simply not supported by scripture, and is laid waste by Romans 7 itself, along with many other verses in scripture. I noticed you did not answer my query...
  9. Oeste

    God bless all in this forum

    Merry Christmas to everyone! I've been busy and haven't been able to follow or respond to posts, but would like to wish everyone a blessed and safe holiday season. Take care, Oeste
  10. Oeste

    Thank you for the winner frubal Kenny! :)

    Thank you for the winner frubal Kenny! :)
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  11. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    I will have to prepare for work shortly so I will not have an opportunity to reply to everything you've written, but I will try to reply to something that seems to genuinely perplex you: This seems to be the crux of the problem, as the question appears anchored in Adventist beliefs. That’s...
  12. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    It's not my argument 3rdAngel, it's God speaking here. Have you had time to reflect and thnk His reasons through? I understand that you would like us to think that God gave the Sabbath to "all mankind" because on the 7th day of creation He rested. But God did not give the Sabbath "to all...
  13. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Well this is new! We are released from sin and death, but not from the law? The "law of sin and death" IS the "Old Testament" law. We could not possibly meet the conditions required by the law 3rdAngel. No one fallen has, no one fallen could, and no one fallen will. All the law does is lead us...
  14. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Paul is most certainly saying we are dead to the law! How can you say we are NOT dead to the Law when Paul specifically states we are? Romans 7:4 says, "In the same way, my brethren, you also were made dead to the marriage law of the Old Covenant by the body of Christ". The verse continues...
  15. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    WOW! That was a bit off the charts 3rdAngel. So "the body of Christ" is not a reference to the church. Ooookay, I'm listening, but I'm not sure if I'm listening to an Adventist. My bad, I thought I was, so let's get right down to the real nitty-gritty then. It may help me and any of our...
  16. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Why do we need to go over this again?? Well obviously because you neither understood my post or the quoted scripture. You present a strawman. I have never presented Romans 7 "as an excuse for sin". That is just nonsense. Come to think of it, no one else has presented Romans 7 "as an excuse for...
  17. Oeste

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    I am in wholehearted agreement with @Kenny. We are dead to the law and alive to love. I also agree that love of God is not separate to obedience to God's law. Of course, I don't agree that Adventist Law is God's Law, and I don't mix and match the two. So what what was that Law again? You...
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