No problems with any of the above. but what works for you might not work for others. Why not go for a strong mental attitude and a physical change? Because people in the wider world might condemn you for it? F**k them, is what I'd say.
I just love Christopher Hitchens, I continue to watch his debates regardless of his untimely demise. I love the way he exposed theists and made them jump on the hot coals of reality. A brilliant mind, a brilliant speaker.
No pretence there, "virtue" is as vague a word as "spiritual", it means different things to different people. You are avoiding my point.
My point was this; if surgery brings personal happiness into a person's life what business is it of anyone to say it is wrong? That is their choice isn't it?
I allow free access to pigeons in my garden on a daily basis, even if they do fill my guttering with pigeon doo-doo from time to time. You pigeonist monster!
Pretty much as shallow as any opposition to it though? It takes all sorts, some people don't much care for "virtue"
(whatever that means) in life, they are never going to feel happiness or fulfillment from it. If surgery releases them into a happier realm who are we to say "no, you're doing it...
Right, so small beer than? I'd never recommend plastic surgery to anyone (but there again I'm an incredibly handsome man ;)) but if the only thing that will bring that person happiness and contentment is plastic surgery, fine I say. That is his or her choice, none of my business is it?
So your beef is that people who start out "healthy" should not have surgery to alter anything? There is a massive cosmetic surgery industry out there you know, I do hope you will be picketing your local plastic surgeon to voice your opposition!
Wrong, in the case of someone with genetic disfigurement (which god in his love allows) without corrective surgery the person has to live with permanent disability or perhaps face an early grave.
Right, just like accident victims or people with genetic disfigurements who have operations to correct them? Should we say no to those people who want their body "mutilated" as well?
Glad to hear you don't "oppose" them, and as I said in my previous post there is no reason why transsexual people cannot adopt. Your opening salvo was:
That sounds more than just pointing out a fact tbh, maybe it was just your wording. Medical technology is moving at a dizzying speed, it may...
That makes even less sense Rival, why would you "oppose" transsexual people? Forgetting the religious stuff, why on Earth would I care if the person next to me is transsexual? I might ask why would I care if my wife was transsexual unless children was a deal breaker? Even then, we could adopt...
Well sex between a man and a woman is more about biology then "mentality" correct? Men and women don't "decide" to have sex because procreation keeps the population buoyant, and is therefore intellectually justified do they? They do it because it feels good, and the biological urge is very...
Thanks for that, at least you tried to answer the question unlike @Rival who apparently would rather eat dinner than answer. Still makes no sense though, I don't oppose people with a "mental disorder" or "attention seekers". I may want the former to receive treatment and care as appropriate, I...
You misunderstand me, I don't consider anything to be "the norm", and what is a "typical atheist" dude? You are contradicting yourself. I was just curious about Rival's positon, only interested in her reason for opposing LGBT.
Yeah, you are making a lot of assumptions about me there, I think theists get irritated by atheists telling them what they believe, just saying mate. I wasn't looking for a fight, I was just curious about Rival's stance.
Rival is a woman mate, and I agree with your definition about atheism, but I'm still curious about the reasons why an atheist would object to LGBT. I don't object to heterosexuals for example, it wouldn't make much sense.
Just to make it clear, I'm not seeking a debate, but I'm curious why you would oppose transgender/trans-sex people or "other such things" (gay people?) as an atheist. Makes no sense gal.
I see, a bit like Saving Private Ryan? I thought the opening "beach" scene in that film was brilliant, I've never served in the military, but I can't help but think it captured something of the chaos and bloodiness of actual combat.
I wasn't expecting the film to explain the circumstances...