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  1. Ingledsva

    Giants = Nephilim

    OK - I went back up and read it again. The word also means magistrates, mighty, judges, etc. el-o-heem' Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to...
  2. Ingledsva

    A new religion?

    ALL religions are MADE-UP of, and by, fallible humans. And how exactly does it not make sense, - when you say women are equal in Baha'i, but your books say a woman CAN NOT be at the top of the religion, in the law making area, the UHJ. They are expected to still fulfill traditional rolls, and...
  3. Ingledsva

    Giants = Nephilim

    As already explained, - the word does NOT mean giants, - as the verses make clear. See # 15 above. As to Job - Elohiym can be humans or angels, depending on the text. - Look the word up in your Strong's. el-o-heem' Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the...
  4. Ingledsva

    Giants = Nephilim

    I am well aware of LATER opinions. However multiple explanations are understood and contemplated. This is 2 and 3 from a Jewish site. Explanation 1 was the angel idea which he seems to favor, - however he tells us the other accepted explanations, and gives notes for why at the bottom. for...
  5. Ingledsva

    Giants = Nephilim

    Anak is a Canaanite. Not a giant. Numbers tells us exactly whom they were afraid of, which includes the Canaanites which Anak is. Num 13:28 Nevertheless the people be strong that dwell in the land, and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover we saw the children of Anak there. See #...
  6. Ingledsva

    Where Is Everybody? Where Are The Aliens?

    Oh good grief! We are a backward, raping, warring, stupid people, at this point. Why would any more advanced aliens want to make contact with us. They are probably just observing our folly, - and lack of true human advancement, at this point. As I have said before - I have seen a flying...
  7. Ingledsva

    Giants = Nephilim

    There is absolutely no reason to take this as a mating between angels and humans. The Sons of God are the Hebrew. They started mixing with other people. Nephilim means mighty/stature, etc., not actually giants. Gen 6:2 That the sons of Elohiym/God saw the daughters of men that they were fair...
  8. Ingledsva

    A new religion?

    We have facts, history, and their own texts for most well know religions. Facts are Facts! They did awful things. We are not talking outside wars. - We are discussing what religions actually did. Murder of the innocent, rape, murder of gay people, grabbing other people's land - saying God...
  9. Ingledsva

    What is the Lake of Fire?

    Not Christian - but - The idea was used by other religions before the Hebrew picked it up, and of course the Christians. It seems to be a metaphorical refining. The base word in Tanakh actually refers to a refiner's furnace that burns off the dross (impurities,) leaving the pure. Mal 3:2 But...
  10. Ingledsva

    A new religion?

    Stating facts is not throwing stones. The history of most of the major religions of the world is out there for the reading. You can define them anyway you want, - however, - we have the histories. All of the religions of Abraham, and most of the other well know religions, have committed...
  11. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    Christians have hijacked another faiths' text and twisted a lot of it's meaning. Right! and you don't find it in the least strange that REAL Biblical historians, - including Christian - say it is about a HUMAN and a real war? And there is no Satan in the text. It says MAN. It says on an island...
  12. Ingledsva

    A new religion?

    Yep, he took all the fru-fru and supernatural out of the NT and just used Jesus' human story. Here is a link to the Jefferson Bible. http://uuhouston.org/files/The_Jefferson_Bible.pdf *
  13. Ingledsva

    A new religion?

    You are going to try and say this isn't usually true? As per the Baha'i thread - Even the Baha'i have murder in their past. The majority of the religions of Abraham obviously also do. In fact the majority of the better known religions have committed atrocities to further their ideas. *
  14. Ingledsva

    A new religion?

    I wrote this a few years back. To define Spirituality I think we have to understand the difference between Spirituality and Religion on a personal level. SPIRITUALITY – An - INDIVIDUAL’S - understanding that there is something greater then self. RELIGION – Groups of individuals with like...
  15. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    I get a kick out of people not of the religion, claiming the texts have other meanings that only they know, - and the people that wrote it are just wrong. Any of our Jewish members can tell you Satan is not in these war texts. We have a couple of choices from what the text says. 1. the...
  16. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    They may or may not have been, - we don't know. All we know is that it likely was written in GREEK in Egypt. And - as stated - they were LATER people influenced by other religions,- CHANGING what Tanakh says. As I have said multiple times now. *
  17. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    Indeed, - humans are animals. *
  18. Ingledsva

    Thinking with a tree behind me

    * Welcome to the forums. Have fun. :D *
  19. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    We don't know, - but Tanakh does equate him several times with the created earth creatures. This would include humans. Gen 3:1 Now the serpent/nâchâsh was more subtil than any beast of the field which YHVH Elohiym had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of...
  20. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    As to Wisdom, - I don't need a link, - I have it on my computer. And here is some info for you. "... As far back as St. Jerome (Praef. in libros Salomonis), it has been felt that not Hebrew but Greek was the original language of the Book of Wisdom, and this verdict is so powerfully confirmed...
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