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  1. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    But you did associate the text with Satan by saying - It is actually a story about a real event, - and is also told from different views in several other Tanakh texts. You would have to say ALL of those texts' with the same story, seem to apply to Satan, which of course is not true...
  2. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    You may not have been responding to the Isaiah portion - but the question to you included my post which was concerning it. As you can see from his post - he quoted from my post about Satan, Lucifer Isaiah 14, and them not being the serpent. - which was in answer to a post saying they and...
  3. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    Again - AGNOSTIC. How is normal debate about what a religious text says - hurtful? Is it hurtful when you discuss Islam, or any other religion, with a follower of that religion, telling them they have got things wrong? I missed nothing in 20. In 20 You continued on with that part about...
  4. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    You posted it to a post about Isaiah 14, so obviously it was. He asked, - concerning my answer and his research - showing no such info in Tanakh, - where you folks were getting this. You gave the NT verse. Earlier you associated the serpent to Satan, - which Tanakh does not, - and to a list...
  5. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    We know Isaiah 14 is about a human King because it tells us so all the way through, and we have other books covering the same wars. See my post # 22. *
  6. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    What is funny is that you think repeating an error saying that I believe in a chaos god, is somehow hurtful to me. LOL. Obviously you haven't paid attention. I'm Agnostic. As to Isaiah 14 - none of it is about a Satan character. Isaiah 14 starts - Isa 14:1 For YHVH will have mercy on...
  7. Ingledsva

    Second Annual Woman's March Draws Massive Crowds Accross US

    LOL! NOT! As to the tweets - I showed that he twisted them. As to the site - I just provided you with a lot of info which shows that this is not In Quran, but a traditional practice of some of these countries, - participated in by some Muslims, Christians, and other religions, in those...
  8. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    .... Yep. That capitalized Lucifer is wrong, it actually says Héylél ben-Shaḥar. I think of it as - How art thou fallen from a height, oh bright rising star, son of the morning/dawn! Basically the same way we use it today. If a rock star rises to great fame, - and than does something stupid...
  9. Ingledsva

    Second Annual Woman's March Draws Massive Crowds Accross US

    LOL! I can read! He twisted and misrepresented what she said in the tweets. Also - you sent us to a SHARIA article. Did you notice this in the comments - "Flutterby‏ @Flutterby2011 10 Jun 2017 "FGM isnt a Muslim issue Its banned in Saudi Arabia. Most prevalent in Africa and Arabic countries...
  10. Ingledsva

    Win by losing

    I'm Swedish too. :D And German. *
  11. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    OH MY! LOL! I don't have any God. We have said over-and-over, that later add-ons to the Hebrew Satan character, means nothing. They are add-ons. They did not understand the Angel Satan's roll, and turned him into an evil autonomous Satan. They are claiming Satan fell, from a...
  12. Ingledsva

    Second Annual Woman's March Draws Massive Crowds Accross US

    I read that bunch of crap very carefully. The writer is an idiot making up stuff with a few sentences taken out of context. For instance he turned around the white supremacist statements. * And he obviously doesn't understand normal discourse, - calling this below, wanting to HARM another...
  13. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    Tanakh does NOT say the serpent is Satan, - anywhere. And obviously it calls Satan by his name everywhere else. Why the discrepancy if it was Satan? Tanakh NEVER refers to Satan as a serpent. Those are later additions tacked onto the Tanakh Satan. *
  14. Ingledsva

    Idolatrous Catholics

    NO, they all come from "so-called" Pagan religions. You can believe whatever you wish, - but the facts are on their sites. LOL! NOT! YOU posted a quote saying so, in defense of your position. "Mary becomes Mother of God: The year 431 A.D. was a momentous one in the history of the Queen of...
  15. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    Actually they are not all one being. Satan is a Tanakh angel and servant of YHVH, whom is NOT evil. There is no Lucifer. - That was a mistranslation. The rest are drawn from many places, such as other religions, etc. And of course the ADDITIONS of the later Christian religion. Tanakh says...
  16. Ingledsva

    Second Annual Woman's March Draws Massive Crowds Accross US

    I liked the sign that said -THE FEMPIRE STRIKES BACK! *
  17. Ingledsva

    The Devil, the Serpent, Satan, and Lucifer,

    Your problem there, - is that there is no name Lucifer in Tanakh. That was a mistranslation problem in Isaiah 14:12. There is no fallen angel in that text. It is a fallen Babylonian King. The text even says he is a MAN. Isaiah 14 starts - Isa 14:1 For YHVH will have mercy on Jacob, and will...
  18. Ingledsva

    Idolatrous Catholics

    And your point is what here? ALL the religions of Abraham are just extensions of Pagan religions. The modern Catholic religion states, and teaches, that Mary IS NOT A GODDESS. How exactly does a sense of holiness in someone, - equate to Divinity? If it isn't being taught as Tritheism - how...
  19. Ingledsva

    New website launched documenting persecution of Baha'is:

    Why is that funny? All people have the right to believe in religion, or not. But they do not have the right toss normal human rights, to force those beliefs on others. Muslims don't have the right to treat women the way they do, or to kill gay people. Christians don't have the right to force...
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