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    How can you tell if a Prophet is true?

    In the first place, it's not clear that Jesus was literate, in a time and place where illiteracy was very much the norm. If we accept that Mary's husband was a carpenter, for example, that's nowhere near literacy territory. His familiarity with the Tanakh may have been from hearing readings and...
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    30,000 feet of water?????

    The earth is a sphere. The mean radius of the earth from center to mean sea level is about 3960 miles. The radius of the earth from center to the top of Mt Everest iadds another 5.5 miles. say 3966 miles. When you do your sums, you'll find that in order to raise the mean sea level that 5.5 miles...
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    Your chance to guide me to God!

    The problem with the Job story is God's appalling morality ─ wanton cruelty, multiple murders of innocents, persisting long term with the suffering ─ and all for a barroom bet with [his] sidekick Satan. (Satan, at that point in the bible, is one of God's courtiers, not yet the later version, the...
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    If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding

    The falsifier here is the failure of academics and students in great numbers to apply for grants to study such claims. They all remind me of James Randi's reward, ultimately a million dollars, for a demonstration of 'psychic' abilities under controlled conditions ─ which as you know was never...
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    What are the best and worst things about heaven?

    That sounds to me like you're trying to rationalize what proved to be a manifest fault in Jesus' performance. As you doubtless know, the politics amongst Jewish people at the time were highly charged with expectations of the apocalypse (though the chief job of the Son of Man when he arrived was...
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    What are the best and worst things about heaven?

    The bible (Mark, Matthew, Luke) also says that the Kingdom would be established in the lifetime of some of Jesus' hearers ... but speaking for myself, I think running 2,000 years or so late is way over the top, the same thing as not happening.
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    What are the best and worst things about heaven?

    First, heaven is apparently not found in this universe but in the supernatural realm, and the only way in which the supernatural realm is known to exist is as concepts, notions, things imagined in individual brains. (I understand the Mormons believe that you get to run a real solar system...
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    What are the best and worst things about heaven?

    Good luck with that ...
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    30,000 feet of water?????

    Not until you explain where that extra 1.1 billion cubic miles of water necessary to cover the tallest mountains is now. The bible account is explicit. Genesis 7:19, you'll recall, says "And the waters prevailed so mightily upon the earth that all the high mountains under heaven were covered...
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    What are the best and worst things about heaven?

    The best thing about heaven is, there's no postmortal existence for the self, so we don't have the postmortal problem of tedium into eternity.
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    30,000 feet of water?????

    The story starts as a tale that once existed in Sumerian Mesopotamia, later adopted by the Semitic part of Mesopotamia, about a great flood. It's very tempting to think that a flood on the Tigris or Euphrates or both back in far antiquity is the origin, and that the tale is a rationalization of...
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    30,000 feet of water?????

    No, all that water under the earth is under the earth, and all that water in the streams lakes and oceans is in the streams lakes and oceans and all the water in the atmosphere is in the atmosphere, but you're still 1.1 billion cubic miles of water short of what would be required to cover the...
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    30,000 feet of water?????

    If such a flood had happened, it would have required an extra billion cubic miles of water over and above the water presently on the earth. It would have left a geological flood layer all over all continents and island and the ocean floor. It would have caused a genetic bottleneck in all species...
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    Harris in saying Trump is a 'fascist' rhetoric shows just how pathetically desperate she is as her pathetic campaign goes down in flames.

    But whichever way it goes, Trump indeed looks like a Fascist, an admirer of the late Adolf, an inadequate and desperately self-important and selfish man, destructive, ignorant ─ and on top of it all, now visibly dementing.
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    Adam's and Eve's ?

    Wow! You really and truly have no idea what evolution is about. Not just evolution, but the basics of biology. And you know this how, exactly? But according to you, the creator created the electromagnetic spectrum. How exactly did the creator do that? What was the process?
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    30,000 feet of water?????

    The Flood is a folktale which the Babylonians (a Semitic people) picked up from the Sumerians (not Semitic) when their cultures cohabited in Mesopotamia. A polished version of the original is found in The Epic of Gilgamesh, which I recommend to you for reading. That its origin is a real flood on...
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    Adam's and Eve's ?

    Evolution makes no claim at all to produce "pre-ordered form design". Where on earth did you get that notion? If you don't believe in magic, that's excellent. You'll therefore be able to tell us the technique by which God made the universe and created Adam and Eve from dust as the folktale...
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    Adam's and Eve's ?

    In reality H sapiens was around maybe 200,000 years before the god of the bible was. Only in the folktale were they created by that god. It's a bit like pointing out we don't encounter magic in reality, then arguing about Harry Potter's wand technique.
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    Adam's and Eve's ?

    The technical term for 'creator' in this context is 'mother'.
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