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  1. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    I did not post Matthew 6 to support MY worldview, but to demonstrate that the Gospels sometimes reveal Yeshua's worldview, wherever his original teachings are found amongst corrupted ones. It appears to me that these original teachings may have survived the Council of Nicea's censorship due to...
  2. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    That is not what I said. I said that this world is the only experience we know to be real. That there is an afterlife is merely a belief. The ego does not want to die, but to go on in perpetuity, so we invent the notion of an 'afterlife' where it can be preserved for all eternity as a means of...
  3. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    All I know for certain is that I am in this world, here, now. There is no 'other' world that I can experience while in this world, other than the world of transformed consciousness. What do you mean by 'next world'? You have experience with a world other than the one you now find yourself in...
  4. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    For the end result to be the same, the devotee would necessarily need to abandon the object of his devotion, in a similar manner that a Buddhist would abandon the 'raft' of the teaching, once his journey is complete. But that is not what occurs with the devotee: he continues to idolize and...
  5. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    Can silent focus on the eternal Mystery within be devotional? In fact, can it actually be closer to the living Source within than devotional songs or other expressions, 'expressions' being targeted to some external deity? If you think this is possible, then the Buddha's practice was pure...
  6. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    Actually, the Ultimate Reality in Hinduism is Brahman, 'The Ground of all Being', or 'Pure Consciousness'. Both the jiva of Hinduism and the seeker in Buddhism merge with the same One Reality.
  7. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    No. Buddha does away with nothing because there is nothing to do away with. There is devotion, not to a persona that is a projection of the ego, but to Ultimate Reality, ie 'Dharma'. Buddha simply realized that his true nature is none other than Ultimate Reality itself, which is empty of...
  8. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    Bottom line is that Jesus refers to a God with a persona, ie 'anthropomorphism', 'My Father', while that to which the Buddha awakened was Universal Consciousness, empty of inherent self-nature, ie 'Sunyata'.
  9. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    Now that's true Zen.:D "When hungry, juet eat; when tired, just sleep"
  10. godnotgod

    New Trump news

    We now have another Mueller conviction trying Trump and Manafort to Russian and Ukraine money in the form of illegal contributions to Trump's inaugural. Definitely criminal, and I think we're seeing the tip of the iceberg. Lobbyist reaches plea deal connected to Russia and Ukraine work -...
  11. godnotgod

    New Trump news

    What we also need, and pronto, is a stringent battery of 'fitness' exams for any President and his Vice-President, and while we're at it, for all members of Congress, so we don't go to all the fuss in electing them only to find out they have some mental disorder while having their hands on the...
  12. godnotgod

    New Trump news

    However, we may end up with a worse situation when Pence takes over. He is a Dominionist, and I read the other day that he is just waiting for God to remove Trump so he and his Dominionist staff and cabinet can rule the nation as they suppose the Christian God wants them to do. This would be...
  13. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    Yes. The mystical experience always comes first, after which the orthodox teachings become codified into a belief system. Then develops offshoots of the orthodoxy as a return to the mystical experience. Yoga is the mystical branch of Hinduism; Zen that of Buddhism; The Contemplatives that of...
  14. godnotgod

    New Statistics on disaproval

    Already we have a new conviction by the Mueller team, tying Manafort and Trump's inaugural to Russian money. Republican Lobbyist Steered Foreign Money to Trump’s Inaugural Committee
  15. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    In the Buddhist view, it is the vast, limitless ocean that the drop finds its strength in. In Hinduism it is Brahman, 'the Ground of all Being', or 'Pure Consciousness'. In both cases the notion of an individual 'person', 'self', or 'soul' in Identification is dissolved. IOW, the true...
  16. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    The Self and Liberation "The fundamental difference between Buddhism and other religions is that Buddhism has no God or gods before whom people bow down in return for peace of mind. The spirit enmeshed in the Buddha’s teachings refuses to offer a god in exchange for freedom from anxiety...
  17. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    Both reincarnation and personal salvation hinge on the existence of a self that is either reincarnated or saved. But no one to date has been able to show exactly where this so-called 'self' called 'i' actually exists. It is purely a fantasy of the mind, which itself is a self-created principle...
  18. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    The classic tea story comes to us from Zen, the mystical branch of Buddhism: A Cup of Tea Nan-in, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868-1912), received a university professor who came to inquire about Zen. Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor’s cup full, and then kept on pouring...
  19. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    Be Here Now:D
  20. godnotgod

    Buddha and Christ - Convergent or Divergent?

    Yes, this is actually a crucial point, at least in comparing modern Christianity (ie 'Paulanity, the myth of Jesus') to Buddhism, the goal of Christianity (Religion Game) being Salvation of an individual soul, while that of Buddhism (Master Game) is spiritual Awakening into Universal...
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