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  1. Underhill

    A Neat Little Comparison Chart

    Perhaps, I don't really care who started it at this point. Most of those people are dead and gone. The right started this current trend of media bashing and name calling of anyone who disagrees with them. A practice that is just as destructive, and probably more so. And there are other...
  2. Underhill

    What Drives The Trump Haters

    You were the one implying as much. I never judged the entire group beyond the fact that they (you) put the root of the problem in power.
  3. Underhill

    What Drives The Trump Haters

    You say that, but it was the closest I've seen anyone come to overthrowing the status quo (in a positive way at least). After Trump, I suspect a positive movement like that will have even more impact.
  4. Underhill

    What Drives The Trump Haters

    That is a reasonable response. And I don't entirely disagree. However there are those with alternative ideas. Bernie Sanders is a prime example. Agree with him or not, it's hard to argue him and those like him are not marching to a different drum.
  5. Underhill

    A Neat Little Comparison Chart

    Find a democrat who wants to take all guns, all democrats want to take your guns. Find a democrat who wants to take down all southern monuments, and all democrats want to destroy the southern heritage. Find a democrat in favor of open borders, and all democrats want to open the floodgates...
  6. Underhill

    A Neat Little Comparison Chart

    First off, those were not my words. I said the level of vitriol demonstrated by the right did not match up with the policies of Obama or his actions. This points to something else at work and racism is the obvious culprit. Second, opposition to the ACA was because it was proposed by a...
  7. Underhill

    What Drives The Trump Haters

    Not seeing reality is not simply different values. It's a form of blindness. Trump is not a good person. Ignore that at your own peril. But my description was accurate. Yes, except I didn't demonize the group but made judgements based upon experience and evidence at hand. That is not...
  8. Underhill

    What Drives The Trump Haters

    I wait with baited breath.
  9. Underhill

    What Drives The Trump Haters

    Right, and you imagine it would be worse. Because she is known for her being a braggart, a liar and for being despised around the globe. She is known for making uneducated public statements than lead to economic chaos... I find it hard to fathom how any reasonable person could compare the...
  10. Underhill

    A Neat Little Comparison Chart

    I doubt most republicans recognize the impact of race on their opinions. Just as with most democrats... If raising money and fundraisers are the mark of "friendship" then everyone in politics is in serious trouble. It's actually extremely close in all of its tenets. I compared the two...
  11. Underhill

    What Drives The Trump Haters

    I remember we've had this discussion. And I am still baffled by what you think this "worse outcome" would be? Bombing Syria? Making us a laughing stock for the rest of the world? Perhaps making our economy incredibly unstable by spouting reactionary populist economic policy? There is a...
  12. Underhill

    What Drives The Trump Haters

    Wow. just. wow.
  13. Underhill

    A Neat Little Comparison Chart

    I agree in part. 1-2% of Republicans were publicly angry that a black man was POTUS. But I've never seen even close to that level of vitriol aimed at a man whose single largest piece of legislation was an attempt at health care reform. Clinton, with all his peccadilloes, didn't even come...
  14. Underhill

    A Neat Little Comparison Chart

    Have you tried doing the same for republicans? When I search, "Is the republican party moving right?" I get.... Yes, the Republican Party has become pathological. But why? No, America Isn’t Moving Left Framing and party competition: How Democrats enabled the GOP’s move to the...
  15. Underhill

    A Neat Little Comparison Chart

    I would say that depends on where you are standing. Yes, there was a push to the left under Bush, but there was also a hard push to the right under Obama. I live in a predominantly right wing part of the country and I can tell you that this area is more bat guano right wing than ever. We...
  16. Underhill

    A Neat Little Comparison Chart

    Yes, except that we have a Trump presidency and there are inherent biases in polling data based upon public perception. For example, many on the right are loath to admit to being Trump supporters with everything going on. Meanwhile the left is chomping at the bit to replace him. This means...
  17. Underhill

    How influential is Fox News anyway?

    I don't buy that. I think that's where some people get their news. But the highest turnout for voting is among those 40-70. These people watch Cable News in droves. As for the left never winning, I beg to differ. The country is moving left (largely thanks to Trump right now). If...
  18. Underhill

    How influential is Fox News anyway?

    Sure, but at least if both sides are represented, there is someone there to point out the lies. Perhaps, but I doubt it. I think it is more the pack mentality. People tend to congregate among those of like mind...
  19. Underhill

    How influential is Fox News anyway?

    Saying they have a choice is fine, but whether they choose to use those other options is the issue at hand. The discussion is about Fox's influence which is really just a matter of how many republicans choose to watch them and are influenced by them. The equal time rule never applied to...
  20. Underhill

    How influential is Fox News anyway?

    They were the first main stream outlet. But yes, there have always been examples out there. They do actual news. But that is part of the problem. They don't always differentiate the two. They treat actual news the same way they treat commentary. Actually it's worse than that as...
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