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  1. Papoon

    Lojban The Logical Language

    For whatever reason this reminded me of Robert Sheckley's short story 'Shall we have a little talk ?' Find the story if you can, meanwhile here is most of the story with some commentary - http://tenser.typepad.com/tenser_said_the_tensor/2006/09/shall_we_have_a.html
  2. Papoon

    Which is Wiser?

    Neither. Gratitude. Pleasure. Comfort. Release. It's not a test. There is no right answer. Flow.
  3. Papoon

    The Science of Ghosts

    Not always, though I have become somewhat skilled in complex visualisation, whether still or full motion HD,. Which was a development of a skill learned from particular meditation practices. So I am well aware of the capacity of the brain to generate all sorts of experiences. I am not taking a...
  4. Papoon

    The Science of Ghosts

    Actually, I've had some wonderful times when I knew I was hallucinating. :)
  5. Papoon

    The Science of Ghosts

    The science of ghosts indeed !
  6. Papoon

    The Science of Ghosts

    Another unsupportable assertion. You are still arguing with a phantom of your imagination.
  7. Papoon

    The Science of Ghosts

    You are still arguing with a ghost of your creation and can not back up a single assertion you have made about me or my (falsely) presumed beliefs.
  8. Papoon

    The Science of Ghosts

    In other words, you are arguing with an imaginary being of your own creation.
  9. Papoon

    The Science of Ghosts

    Re-read our conversation. If you are in fact logical and rational - and honest - you will recognise and apologise for your attempts to discredit me by inferring statements beliefs and attitudes which I never expressed.
  10. Papoon

    The Science of Ghosts

    Your replies consistently elucidate my point.
  11. Papoon

    The Science of Ghosts

    Scientism does not mean science. It refers to a mindset, much the same as religion, where ideas ABOUT science are part of a neurotic faith based fixation.
  12. Papoon

    The Science of Ghosts

    1) That there is no final prophet was a remark I made whilst saying something about the incompleteness of science. Clearly I was suggesting that the idea of a final prophet is an irrational belief. My point was that since science is not and never will be complete - which in no way denigrates...
  13. Papoon

    The Science of Ghosts

    And I've had quite a few of those from logic-heads who attack me for posting about experiences which I have reported and about which I have come to no conclusions nor suggested any belief. Both 'believers' and cookie cutter atheist trolls use circular logic. The believers say it must be true...
  14. Papoon

    Regarding Disliking People

    I think Lou Reed's version nailed it. From "The Dirty Boulevard" - Give me your hungry, your tired, your poor I'll **** on 'em That's what the Statue of Bigotry says Your poor huddled masses Let's club 'em to death And get it over with and just dump 'em on the boulevard
  15. Papoon

    Regarding Disliking People

    We struggle to make sense of relationships which are text on our screens. In our natural state we live in small groups, knowing one another intimately. In our recently constructed postindustrial cage, designed as a wealth generating machine for an invisible tiny minority, all of our natural...
  16. Papoon

    The Value of Extreme or Offensive Viewpoints on RF

    I don't participate here to have my views affirmed, or to proselytize. This forum is a window on humanity. Philoso-porn, LOL. Bring it on. Meet the Fokker's.
  17. Papoon

    Lojban The Logical Language

    Well said. I also feel that way . And this also highlights the kind of limitations inherent in 'logical' forms of communication. This is why I have made the kind of lateral remarks I often feel compelled to make. They are not dismissal or sarcasm, they are an attempt to respond...
  18. Papoon

    Lojban The Logical Language

    And it was made illegal in 1966.
  19. Papoon

    Lojban The Logical Language

    The universe. It boggles my mind. What's logjam for boggles ? I mean, apart from being a great name for a post-911 rock band. "Fine Doubt is the latest drop from Logjam for Boggles...."
  20. Papoon

    Lojban The Logical Language

    I like you a lot :)
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