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  1. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    Bapticostal is just an attempt at humor. I was raised in a strict Baptist background. One that didn't believe in full Gospel gifts of the spirit. They believe they ceased when the Apostles all died. Once I did my own research after my childhood of abuse & hypocrisy from within my family &...
  2. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    You are really funny. Telling me I'm using fradulent material when it's quoted & other quotes from your own evolutionist esp Could admitting the fraud your side as down. Pot - Kettle BTW for the one accusing Christianity of errors which is OT ( off topics ) from this thread. I've never made...
  3. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    If you won't even admit to the fraud when Stephen Gould admit it is fraud then I can't help you. Plus when the science community continues to commit that fraud and never correct it for over 100 yrs and you still find it credible is beyond me. They sure wouldn't admit to the others. Did you even...
  4. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    If you won't even admit to the fraud when Stephen Gould admit it is fraud then I can't help you. Plus when the science community continues to commit that fraud and never correct it for over 100 yrs and you still find it credible is beyond me. They sure wouldn't admit to the others. Did you even...
  5. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    Evolution Fraud and Myths I will give you some links to the frauds. I know you will protest as always due to the source. Yet since evolution itself has already proven it is NOT above reproach in the Haekel drawings you can't cast stones. Plus if really want to learn at least read what other side...
  6. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    Why are you bringing up Christian frauds? There aren't any that can't be defended but that is not on topic so I won't deal with that here. You do anything to not deal with this issue at hand.
  7. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    https://evolutionnews.org/2015/04/haeckels_fraudu/ Here is one article about it. Below is quotes from a second article. The problem is you are so brainwashed it won't matter to you sadly. You won't care that one of the main things used to teach you evolution is true is a pure fraud and has...
  8. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    How many of you are aware of the proven fraud still used in textbooks of Haekels drawings? Are you willing to honestly search to find out? Then admit it when you do? Admit they science establishment keeps allowing a well known fraud continue to be used to indoctrinate & mislead students. See...
  9. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    As a statement said earlier. You know the point I've made is very valid. Yet you can't acknowledge it due to your bias not that it isn't valid. But it isn't that what I've presented isn't enough information. Due to your bias there will never be enough information. I could explain about...
  10. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    I gave you the list earlier in this thread from Dr Well microbiologist who wrote the book Icons of Evolution & now has written a follow up to it. Sad how you so cut yourself off from anything that's negative about Evolution. I could give links but you won't read. Let me try to explain this...
  11. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    So you won't answer why the proven frauds shouldn't be removed from textbooks? You don't want or don't believe in teaching a subject honestly? The fact that they are still there and still used indicates the lack of real honesty in the science. That it doesn't bother you also says so much...
  12. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    So so sorry for the multiple post. It seemed like it had timed me out while writing and I kept trying to post and then it just post them all at once. Really sorry. I will see if I can delete some of these. It looks like I was successful in deleting all the extra ones. I truly am sorry and...
  13. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    Science lights up our homes at night, has put men on the moon and brought them home, and has conquered polio and small pox. Science makes our lives longer (80 is the new 60), healthier, more functional (eyeglasses were a great invention), more comfortable, more efficient (especially in...
  14. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    If you are truthful you have to admit as history proves. The big majority of science consenses doesn't make truth. Never has or will. Shown by those believing earth was flat Shown by those believing everything orbited the earth Shown by those believing a cell was simple glob of protoplasm...
  15. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    Are you going to deny the statements of your own evolutionist admitting the incredible design they see? This is very key in my humble opinion. I've never in my life seen Design & esp Functional Design ( which discredits the line of it only appears designed ) happening w/o an Intelligence...
  16. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    That article was for science teachers using a factory as an illustration to help students understand how the complex parts work and how they work individually and interdependently and then all together as a whole. Therefore. It is an illustrate to show functional design. Just as an aside. I...
  17. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    Polymath 257 I just got back on this. For as long as my back allows. I am currently printing both of those articles. I will then need time to read and make my notes. But in the interim time I will give you an article to read and explain to me how evolution can explain this type complex...
  18. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    I came back to check this before I leave for the day & most of the night. I find it truly amazing how you avoid at all costs doing the simple thing I ask. Despite all the bravado of you guys maybe gals too. You keep claiming its so proven by observation yet evolutionist usually say it's so...
  19. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    Why are you guys making this hard? It's a simple thing. All you get together & agree on one article about Evolution. For brevity sake don't make it huge for everyone's sake. The article must be about Evolution & then describe how one (species, animal etc) evolved from its lower form to...
  20. Patriottechsan

    Evolution & Creationism are both Faith & Supernatural based

    Since you can't or refuse to recognize the obvious point that upon seeing a cell phone you instantly recognize you are seeing proof of ID. That tells me you are so blinded by your bias you can't & refuse to even attempt to look outside that box. . Why the ID Scientist Dissent movement. They...
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