Why wouldn't evil exists if Godis omnipotent? Do you think that God should prevent evil just because Godis all-powerful? That does not compute because there is no reason why God should prevent evil. "God can do it since Godis all-powerful" isnot a reason. Humans are fully responsible for...
You speak of the little jihad the outward jihad in to this physical world.
The bigger jihad is the one each Muslim fight within themself, toward fighting ones of ego, that is the fight I fighting. If I can not beat my own ego, how am I going to find full unconditional love?
Salam
Concsious thoughts. Some kind of gift toGod aside from spiritual battle to see him and believe in him in form of striving in his way (Jihad) is an obligation. This doesn't mean you a join an army or support one, but it does not mean you don't either. You have to assess political ground...
I agree, people can enjoy the nice things in their lives as long as the order of values are correct. The problem I have is with scriptures that are seemingly contradict that, and you wonder why I am confused, as I said in my OP?
How do you reconcile these verses to thinking of self and loving...
That's faith for you.
Judging God from our point of ignorance and not wanting to listen to and understand God's pov isnot a good way to go.
Seeing and disliking suffering is the same with me as with you.
It is the same with God also and so that is why Godis going to bring it all to a close...
...by Epicurus that is still highly relevant today and is logically sound:
Isgodwillingtopreventevil,butnotable?Thenheisnotomnipotent.Ishe able, butnotwilling? Thenheis malevolent.
Ishe both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Ishe neither able nor willing? Then why...
Your statement doesn't resolve the fundamental problem I raised.
Which is that the problem of evil never made sense, and still doesn't make sense, in any context other than as a challenge to the logical consistency of a god that has it's roots in Judaic belief.
Therefore, to pose the question...
Edit: I posted this before I saw your latest post.
This was the last of the older posts I had not finished responding to.
There is a distinction between the two concepts you are failing to make.
1. They were created to be in union with God, which in that state they would only do things that...
I'm going to respond to these in this order, having written the post numbers in Notepad:
267 (re-elucidating the premises of my PoE)
263 (Morality)
264
265
258 (Theodicy)
259
260
268 (Re: splittinf off logic/math)
However, I'm responding in such a way that I've read all of them: so parts...
You can certainly propose any premises you'd like as part of an argument - butthen we need to examine the soundness of those premises.
I would, in light of how you've defined your position over these past posts, restate your argument like this:
Premise 1: god doesn't like sapient beings to...
You contradicted yourself with the two statements in bold. The laws are more powerful than God if they prevent him from accomplishing his will.
So you're saying that he was the first to lie, therefore, is the creator of evil.
If in our mind it can, then going by your, our minds are more...
What you are arguing thenis simply this... Everything must be white, and no black or grey should exist.
I'll explain that.
Darkness exists. Light can fill it. Before light fills it. Darkness existed. After light fills it, the darkness does not exist.
Do you disagree with that?
Godisnot...
No, I am following you. You were talking about Satan's actions, being God's actions. That's Satan's actions, notGod's
Okay. Thanks very much for sharing your perspective.
This is what the Bible's says on the matter.
God did not exercise his power of foreknowledge to look into the future to...
It is clear to me that when an atheist -- who does not believe in God by definition -- uses the word God in a sentence it must always refer to "the God that has been described to me." But because that is very long, to use it over and over again would be tedious.
I am not in need of a treatise...
No, I think you aren't following me. I'm talking about God's actions.
I think you're misunderstanding me. I think we have different ideas about what the consequences of a person's decision are. Here's my perspective:
Say that a person is confronted with a decision: they can either take a...
"atheist arguments"?
I don't follow.
Let's just move along...
Euh... No. I don't see why a god would have to be any of those things. I leave it upto theists who believe in said god, to define said god.
Hmm.
I think I can't agree here. I think I'ld have to change the wording into...
For my own sanity this is response to #231 (in case I take a break and come back, so I know to start with #232 next).
This is incoherent. Adam and Eve would be capable of making perfect moral decisions but they would make an imperfect moral decision? I don't see how you can reconcile this...
Is Jesus Christ a Liar?? Jesus Christ has made no statements to me or anyone I know in order to determine whether Jesus Christ is a Liar or not. Further, Jesus did not write any holy books either. As for myself, I give everyone the great opportunity to be trustworthy until it is proven wrong. If...
[IMO] God created a world that had the potential to be good. The one allowance for evil was free will, a necessary allowance given that God wants people to love one another!
Faith is paramount because it demonstrates a trust in God as omniscient, omnipotent and loving. To claim that you believe...
If you think you can’t have omnipotence without having limits on omnipotence (thus making it not omnipotent by definition) then all that proves is that the PoE as formulated was never logically sound to begin with and thus is a logically invalid question.
But the PoE never tried to put limits...