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  1. R

    Special Pleading and the PoE (Part 3)

    Given the nature of what death is and how it is experienced, I already explained why there are no limitations God could put on man to prevent them from separating from God without violating their free will. What would you have God do? Force you to stay in relational union with Him against your...
  2. M

    Special Pleading and the PoE (Part 3)

    I was saying that the Problem of Evil as I was presenting it is presented as-is, with the premises as-is. If the glove doesn't fit, you don't have to wear it, basically. The PoE is aimed at the god of the philosophers with very general properties; the question then becomes whether any individual...
  3. R

    Special Pleading and the PoE (Part 3)

    There are several problems with your argument: 1. Your claim is already refuted on the basis that free will is itself an example of God gifting to man the ability to do something which is unconstrained by any laws which God created to govern the operation of the universe. Free will by...
  4. R

    Special Pleading and the PoE (Part 3)

    There are two problems with that viewpoint: 1. You misunderstood the point I was making: Which is that if I am giving you logical explanations for how the God of the Bible can be omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent by referencing Biblical theology, then it would be wrong for you to...
  5. Trailblazer

    Atheist looking for religious debate. Any religion. Let's see if I can be convinced.

    You cannot dispute that God has not chosen to prove that He exists to everyone in the world because that choice is readily apparent, since everyone in the world does not believe in God. You can dispute my belief that God chose to send Messengers in an effort to communicate to humanity, but...
  6. ratiocinator

    Atheist looking for religious debate. Any religion. Let's see if I can be convinced.

    You seem to be arguing against a position I've never put forward. I know that if an omnipotent exists, it will be capable of doing anything but will only do what it chooses to do. My problem is with what you are telling me your god has chosen to do. It's its choices (along with the total lack of...
  7. R

    Special Pleading and the PoE (Part 3)

    You seem to have a recurring problem with not seeing things in posts. I can explain it again for you in another way: I pointed out why the premises that underpinned your question were false or baseless. You tried to argue with it. You originally tried to argue in support of the premises...
  8. Koldo

    Special Pleading and the PoE (Part 3)

    What did I originally try to argue? You have quoted a question and not an argument. Perhaps you don't understand this but your claim that I haven't been able to dispute your position is not going to win you any points on this conversation. I should have made myself clear from the start: I am...
  9. R

    Special Pleading and the PoE (Part 3)

    Your new premise is based on some other unchecked premises that would be false according to the Bible. New premises: 1. What God wants is the same as what God allows. 2. That God allows things to happen by virtue of not intervening to change it immediately or prevent it from happening in the...
  10. Link

    There are two stronger arguments the PoE.

    This is how it appears, either he is evil or doesn't exist, unless there is an explanation. And the explanation is not simple but takes understanding on faith and the veils of light by which God speaks through. It's not simple at all as an explanation.
  11. fantome profane

    There are two stronger arguments the PoE.

    If an omnipotent entity that could prevent suffering chooses not to because it wants to stay hidden, I would describe that entity as evil, Certainly not omnibenevolent.
  12. L

    Is God omnipotent?

    The Father is Omnipotent. As he created the universe and is outside time and space, His Divinity is not knowable. To avoid taking away from His Glory, He is All Powerful. He is All Knowing. He is All Loving. God can create anything except the impossible. In a universe of free willing...
  13. 74x12

    Is God omnipotent?

    God is certainly omnipotent but God wants us to fight the evil. By doing so we become what we were born to be. Not a weak God and doesn't like weakness. Pities it but prefers us to be strong in good. This is why he allows evil to reign. If people believe Jesus is God manifest then that should...
  14. C

    Special Pleading and the PoE (Part 2)

    Playing catsup is fine as long as we don't spread ourselves thin on french fries (or other foods). The butterfly effect means that if we prevent suffering, that might have further ramifications. The total amount of suffering might be a result of over-population. A population could be limited...
  15. C

    Is God omnipotent?

    Apathy, evil, or impotence (aka lack of omnipotence) might be the reason that the world has horrible things (wars, pain, disease).
  16. 9-10ths_Penguin

    Special Pleading and the Problem of Evil

    I'm not sure I'd necessarily make that assumption. Plenty of the theists who believe in the sort of god to which the Problem of Evil applies also believe - as a tenet of their faith - that their god not only has the ability to create a world with no suffering whatsoever where free will is...
  17. Trailblazer

    Special Pleading and the PoE (Part 2)

    Only one instance of suffering to make a contradiction with omnibenevolence? I am not going down that all or nothing road, sorry. It is too illogical. Besides, I never said I believe that God is omnibenevolent. I only believe that God is benevolent, because that is what Baha'u'llah wrote: “Be...
  18. Trailblazer

    Special Pleading and the Problem of Evil

    Okay, thanks for explaining that admittedly, I had not see that so I was unaware of your position on free will. As I said on the other thread, As long as physical bodies exist there will be physical suffering. There is not some other kind of physical body God could create that would not be...
  19. blü 2

    Is God omnipotent?

    Logically, there are things an otherwise omnipotent being can't do. For example [he] can't occupy the same reality as another omnipotent being; hence [he] can't make a perfect copy of [him]self. Of course if you're omnipotent, perhaps logical restrictions don't apply to you, and you can do...
  20. Deeje

    Is God omnipotent?

    Actually, it isn’t "heaven on earth", but rather the restoration of paradise on earth...where God intended humans to live in the first place. "Paradise" means a park-like garden.....it was God who created the blueprint for what he wanted the whole earth to look like. He encouraged them to "be...
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