And by the same token, people who were not brought up in christian homes, who have not gradually been indoctinated are christians and believe in god. So really what im saying is that you are going to have to find another reason why christians believe in god, because having learnt these things...
You must give it another go. The question is what is the reason, the fundamental reason that mass delusion finds its way to christians and what evidence is there that this mass delusion has a scientifically plausible reason for occuring accross cultures and societies even without stimulation or...
Good point. Cultural and social incentives do play a large role, but i think it only plays a role in cultures and societies which have been exposed to christianity for a long time. During the time of jesus, very few people believed in Him, during the time of paul, the entire gentile population...
You have a point...perhaps we can discuss that in another thread. We can discuss how god reveals himself, and/or what is god's purpose for false teachings. But for the purpose of this thread, i will say, that if confusion can make god not real to christians, then he would have gone out of...
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Christians believe in god and then we find things to make us believe it by looking for outside stimuli that suit our already formed ideas/beliefs and concepts? How did we come up with the idea of god then in the first place? We have to come up with the concept of god, and then our brains go...
Christians lol are taught by their god. Yes there are pastors and folk that talk about him, but he really is the one that reveals himself. So you can I suppose lay the blame of believing in god solely on those who talk about him, and yet, he never becomes really real to anybody that has only...
i suspect that you are generalising that all christians have been brainwashed as children. It would mean that when we grow up, we can forsake santa-clause. So what is it about a christian that does not make them 'outgrow' their god? How is it, that very many extremely intelligent, critical...
Christians follow an invisible god. How can an invisible god brainwash. How can something that does not exist, make you want to follow it? How can this non-existing god, grip you so, that you follow Him 'blindly'.
In christianity our god chose us, we did not choose him, so he is the one that does the drawing and reveals himself to us, in our inner spiritual man. Our God finds us, we dont find our god.
heneni
That would mean that a christian can only be a christian if he/she has been indoctrinated by other christians for most of their young life. But that does not explain why some people in hindu, or islamic nations convert to christianity not by being exposed to it from childhood, but rather having...
Christianity cannot and does not appologise for their god. A religion that has to present their god, as something that he is not, in order to appease the masses, does not please their god but the masses.
Heneni
Thanks for the link, but you know that posting a link does not verify it to be correct. If you want to discuss what YOU have read in the book here, it will be more advantageous, with particular scientific proof as to why christians believe in God.
But what about atheists?
Books, spoken words, paintings all have a way of falling within someone's taste. If christians have a taste for the invisible God, where do they get this from?
I am well aware that there are other religions out there. Itwilled is a christian and he was talking about the bible. So, i responded from a christian perspective.
I dont feel the need to 'check out ' other religions as in shopping around for another, but i do on occasion like to learn more...
That is where christianity distinguishes itself. If there is no life after this one, lets eat and drink and think nothing more about it. Live it up the best we can. But a christians fundamental hope lies in the afterlife. If there is no resurrection from the dead our faith is in vain and so is...
You speak as if im not here. You need to be aware of the fact that you quoted me and then replied to me as if 'she' is not reading it.
Next....you are a tad arrogant thinking i was musing about your post for two whole days! If it will make you feel famous. :takeabow:
Heneni
No i mean that a christians risks all to believe in god. That risk involves loosing this life to get it back. A christian cant be wondering if this stuff is real because nobody that isnt sure will loose this life without being sure there is another. We are wired to preserve ourselves, not give...