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  1. ether-ore

    "Religious Liberty" ?

    Article 1 Section 8 of the constitution it states: The congress shall have power to coin money, regulate the value thereof and of foreign coin and fix the standard of weights and measures. Congress has abrogated that responsibility and given it over to that creature from Jekyll Island... the...
  2. ether-ore

    "Religious Liberty" ?

    To anticipate that a marriage might fail is not justification to refuse service when no question of conscience is involved.
  3. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    Correct. Those are the choices.
  4. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    I said "gratitude is increased by children being born into the world". Homosexuals add nothing to that. Besides, they disobey the command to multiply and replenish the earth to say nothing of not being able to have eternal increase. Further, since they are disobeying God's morality laws...
  5. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    I find that very interesting and I'd like to expand on it a bit. I don't think it has ever been asked: What does God get out of all of this? The usual answer is obedience and worship. I think it is a little more that just that. I think He simply likes to be appreciated. Gratitude adds glory...
  6. ether-ore

    "Religious Liberty" ?

    I don't believe so. Thomas Jefferson wrote: "Let no more be said of the confidence in men but bind them down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." Having experienced the abuse of power by a British king, the founding fathers were leery of granting too much power to a centralized...
  7. ether-ore

    "Religious Liberty" ?

    The principle I am using is the original constitution which says that the federal governments powers are few and fixed, whereas state powers are many and undefined. Right now, because of the 16th &17th amendments, the Butler Case (which said the federal government was no longer fixed and...
  8. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    Wow, but aren't you the articulate one? I am impressed. Anyway, I believe that same sex attraction is part of the human condition. As I said earlier, I believe this physical body does indeed have innate desires which may predispose it to homosexuality, perhaps even genetically predisposed...
  9. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    I can only hope. I had a first cousin who died of complications due to aids. He was gay, but he was also an actor and a quite good one. He could tell the most entertaining and funny stories. At a family reunion once, he complained to me that he couldn't understand why the church did not...
  10. ether-ore

    "Religious Liberty" ?

    That wars occur is not justification for spending money on social programs at the federal level. I am taken aback at you statement" "You do understand that this means that the federal government can do whatever it wants and the states then have powers that the federal government doesn't grant...
  11. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    I concede that from your point of view what you say appears to be true. This is why I made the comment concerning the reasonableness of scripture. Some are able to see reasonableness in it and others cannot. I'm not sure why this disparity is the case. As I said, I think the scriptures are...
  12. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    To many, the scriptures offer cohesive, coherent and therefore valid evidence that there is a God. With that understanding, the scriptures can also be said to reveal God's will. Since we are not given to 'know' all things yet, it is true that some of God's laws are taken on faith. But because...
  13. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    While I do think it necessary to discipline myself according to God's law (what you call hopping from one foot to the other) I don't actually believe in the roasting in hell bit. I do believe that unless a person repents, other than being resurrected, the atonement of Jesus Christ cannot be...
  14. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    Jo, I agree that it was not a choice that you made. My belief is that we are born into this world and into a physical body which we have never before experienced. Our bodies have desires which are both naturally and perhaps even genetically inclined. But that is not the issue. I believe that...
  15. ether-ore

    "Religious Liberty" ?

    I should have thought that would have been clear from what I said. Anyway, with the exception of an interstate system of highways, all of the things you mentioned should be handled by individual states. In that context, those are legitimate functions of state governments. My concern is with...
  16. ether-ore

    "Religious Liberty" ?

    Very cleverly phrased. The problem with socialists is that sooner or later, you run out of other people's money. There exists a conflict between what the founders intended with the original constitution and the perversion that exists today. Efforts are being made to call a states convention...
  17. ether-ore

    Paul vs "the law" (can humans earn righteousness?)

    For Christians, tradition has changed. With reference to a Sunday sabbath, that would be because that was the day when Christ was resurrected. Of the rest, only two stand out as significant for me. You already gave the right reason concerning circumcision so I needn't comment further...
  18. ether-ore

    Paul vs "the law" (can humans earn righteousness?)

    Just FYI, Peter was the head of the church in his day and it was he that received to commission from Jesus Christ to feed His sheep (John 21:16). How this was to be accomplished was up to Peter. That was Peter's assignment. So Peter delegated to Paul to go to the gentiles and the record shows...
  19. ether-ore

    "Religious Liberty" ?

    I must admit I'm a bit confused by your sentence structure. Are you asking me to type the entire contents of the Constitution, because in it is defined the separation of powers, the check and balances and the defined powers of the federal government. It also says within the constitution that...
  20. ether-ore

    The bible and gays

    I will tell you what my faith teaches me: I am eternally grateful for the choice that Adam and Eve made. For if they had not made it, I wouldn't have recieved this marvelous physical body which gives me the ability to manipulate matter and the ability to enjoy a hug. I believe we all existed...
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