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  1. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    If the epistle writers and the gospel writers didn't take pen to paper, no one would have ever heard of Christianity. No religion lasts without writings. It is the epistle writers that are the founders of Christianity and the gospel writers by the very act of putting pen to paper. There need not...
  2. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    Right Sherlock, because the author of Mark says it goes back further, none of which you can prove. Paul said people were preaching a different Jesus. Ater the second century people started paying attention to the gospels. Thank you for proving my point for me. None of which were historically...
  3. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    So, Augustus was a dying and rising Son of God that was sacrificed. :rolleyes:
  4. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    Christianity is based on these writings whether a Jesus existed or not. The writings are everything, and Christianity is nothing without them. It's been that way since people at the end of the second century started paying attention to them.
  5. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    Sorry, I meant to say that it's all true.
  6. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    Exactly. The epistle writers and the unknown author of Mark are the main founders simply due to the fact that they took pen to paper.
  7. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    So true. The trial is a complete sham.
  8. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    There's a lot of sides to this story. Anecdotes, oral tradition, allusions to ancient scripture, there's a lot going on.
  9. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    Why would anyone write a gospel like that if it wasn't true?
  10. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    It looks like only people with a special education can have knowledge of the historical Jesus.
  11. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    Empty polemic, how dramatic. :rolleyes: I simply don't believe claims of Jesus' existence, and you haven't given any reason why anyone should.
  12. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    Oberon does that daily, ad nauseum. Fallingblood included you in that belief.
  13. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    The miracles and the resurrection are the core elements of the story, it is to miss the point to suggest that these are exaggerated stories so otherwise historical. The point is that this Son of God came down to earth for the purpose of committing miracles and to resurrect from the dead in order...
  14. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    Belief is the only possibility for accepting the gospels as historical accounts. No one has presented any facts, so deduction leads one to conclude that this notion can only be an unsubstantiated belief.
  15. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    Your argument is fallacious on a number of levels. Mythologies exist independent of non fiction. We don't have any non fictional accounts of Jesus. The comparison is of no merit whatsoever and a very silly one. I can't believe anyone can make such an argument. An historical figure (Augustus...
  16. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    You just lost all credibility if you had any to begin with. Please educate yourself about what we have, and how we know what we have, on Augustus Caesar.
  17. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    They believe that the gospel story of a dying and rising Son of God is not fiction, they haven't shown the gospel story to be non-fiction, not by any stretch of the imagination. That was an extremely bad attempt to switch the burden of proof onto those that don't believe as they do.
  18. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    Exactly. A god man can't exist but was written about extensively, we have the fiction. No one wrote of an historical Jesus even if there was one. Considering the masses that believe whatever they're told, there is no need for an historical Jesus to explain the belief, it's ingrained in our...
  19. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    There's no issue to sidestep. The arguments for an historical Jesus that explains all the different Christianities that emerged in the first few centuries are weaker than weak. Just to name a few gnostic groups: Marcionism – Christ was a purely spiritual entity Nestorianism &#8211...
  20. dogsgod

    did jesus exist?

    Mythers don't dismiss scholars because they supposedly have a Christian bias, mythers don't assume that the gospels are historical accounts of actual events, that's the difference. It's absurd to compare the gospels to the historical accounts we have for Augustus Caesar. Such absurdities as...
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