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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    that is a valid question Subduction and deserves an answer. I will try my best to keep this short... Genesis = God creates a new heavens and new earth...they are both an extension of, and revelation of his character Satan attempts to corrupt both heaven and earth and ruins Gods character...
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    There is irrefutable evidence from Polonium halos that the rock layers of the Grand Canyon where all formed in a short time, the worldwide flood.

    lets move to the other one...this discussion is now way off topic so theres no need to ruin both threads with offtopic chatter.
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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    is that your evidence that it wasnt a fraud? What about the Java Man? Are you a believer that Dubois wasnt wrong in his assumptions concerning this specimen? For example: Dubois was a medical practitioner, not a geologist nor paleontologist Dubois never actually dug out the two bones...they...
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    There is irrefutable evidence from Polonium halos that the rock layers of the Grand Canyon where all formed in a short time, the worldwide flood.

    Can we answer this now entirely from the other thread? I think its now heading into an area where my response on the other thread also covers my next response here.
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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    Subduction, why are you here on these forums exactly? What is your purpose? Are you here only because its now your goal in life to defend others against the scourge of Chritianity because its a fairytale? Im trying to remember without going back through posts...were you once a Christian and...
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    There is irrefutable evidence from Polonium halos that the rock layers of the Grand Canyon where all formed in a short time, the worldwide flood.

    If you take a look at historicity of the cases, you will note that the case which started the ID debate began where i said it did. You are simply focusing on one aspect of the Creation Evolution debate...its obvious to me that we have miscomunicated. I tend to look at the historical aspect of...
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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    ah here we go...its down this pathway is it amigo??? There is still a philosophical debate whether mathematics is a science. However, in practice, mathematicians are typically grouped with scientists, and mathematics shares much in common with the physical sciences....Moreover, most...
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    There is irrefutable evidence from Polonium halos that the rock layers of the Grand Canyon where all formed in a short time, the worldwide flood.

    I will only address the above...everything before it is unreferenced timewasting. You are claiming false Dichotomy and the legal case McLean v. Arkansas (1982) I know about this case and it was devastating for ID of that there is no doubt. However, it is not a win for Evolution...and yet, the...
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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    Subduction, i cannot engage on that level...if that is the kind of argument you use in support of your beliefs than I am not at all suprised that you are not a Christian anymore. It is rather saddening to hear you earbash one of the worlds foremost pure mathematics professors claiming he has...
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    There is irrefutable evidence from Polonium halos that the rock layers of the Grand Canyon where all formed in a short time, the worldwide flood.

    So your alternative is to claim that your world view is founded on proven truth? Consider the following reference... From a practical perspective it is useful to operate within theoretical frameworks that we treat as facts. We need to make assumptions in order to reach substantial conclusions...
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    There is irrefutable evidence from Polonium halos that the rock layers of the Grand Canyon where all formed in a short time, the worldwide flood.

    ok so im sorry i missed this. Its a long post, which i like, however is it ok if i just start out responding to the truth claim and biblical inerrancy? You wrote... Truth, in my view, is a quality of statements and a statement is true to the extent that it accurately reflects / corresponds...
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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    sorry guys...,ive had some phone calls from the wife and also for work. Dan...so tell me, why are people on these forums in your opinion?
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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    ah see now that is what i was expecting you would say...you confuse my caring for your beliefs and my caring that others may be influenced by your side of the story. That is why i respond. Surely you of all people agree that individuals who argue over fences are not really interested in the...
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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    You know Dan, we would both do well to not start bar fights...we never know who we are dealing with. In terms of education, i think im fine...4 years and a Bachelor degree in Education and having been raised by a theologian are more then enough education for me to appropriately conclude atheism...
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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    Look I accept that may be your position, however, assigning the term Pseudoscience as defense is absurd. I could make the claim "Behe wears glasses" to also deny his research and conclusions. The point is, your statement above is nothing more than personal bias, and its a bias you insert from...
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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    right so: Piltown man was a creationist fabrication and it was not found to be a fake by non christian science? Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Pi... Piltdown Man The Piltdown Man was a paleoanthropological fraud in which bone fragments were presented as the fossilised remains of...
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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    Im just trying to work out when apparently the evidence concludes Behe went rogue? Below is what the current wikipedia profile on him states... He serves as professor of biochemistry at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania and as a senior fellow of the Discovery Institute's Center for...
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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    The actual result is that Pascals Wager is applicable because it compares the Christian world view with Atheism. Since you are atheist and I am Christian, we are not arguing eastern religion, Mormonism, or the like!
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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    The fraud was believed to be fact by the mainstream science view for almost 50 years...that is the point amigo. You need to understand the news flash as you clearly dont get the significance of the issue it presents! BTW it is no the only one i have a few others. Honestly, please dont respond...
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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    I have responded to the relevant complaints in your response with DIRECT QUOTES FROM THE WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE! if you are going to respond to direct references with your interpretation, then you are ignorant of what the article authors actually state in their own words. A person who continues to...
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