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  1. setarcos

    Shifting more towards atheism

    I disagree. We would be wiser on how to behave given the changes. Pascals wager was a general decision making question applied to a specific proposition. Your making a fundamental mistake if you find fault in the process because you've applied logic irrelevant to the reference the question was...
  2. setarcos

    Instantaneous action/reaction

    My apologies. I did read and understand what you were trying to explain in your first answer. I think, as I asked sayak83, that our frames of reference may be different. Atomic structure keeps getting referenced and that is the direction the conversation went. I was wondering about subatomic...
  3. setarcos

    I have a feeling that the afterlife doesn't exist

    I've wondered about this...if we've no evidence (some would debate that) of what happens after death then why would you equate after death with your state before birth? There is some data which indicates that there is more to "death" than simply switching off from here to gone. The scientific...
  4. setarcos

    Shifting more towards atheism

    Of course. Its a thought experiment with unproven premises. Everything for humans is guesswork...until it isn't. And that's usually after the fact.;) I don't know why that's funny but you've hit on Pascals wager's major flaw.
  5. setarcos

    Shifting more towards atheism

    No...you didn't. I did, and asked your opinion on what you think it might be. I was under the impression that you at one time were leaning towards being a theist but now are leaning away from that belief system. Since Pascals wager involves such systems of belief and you mentioned that you at...
  6. setarcos

    Shifting more towards atheism

    You aren't correct here. You being too definitively all inclusive. I have debated Atheists who have said that verbatim. Whether or not they misspoke is irrelevant here. But what is relevant is how you define what you believe. If that incudes being an atheist with beliefs then so be it. I may...
  7. setarcos

    Shifting more towards atheism

    Correct...as I said the arguments are generally against specific proofs imagined or believed that have been offered for the existence of God or gods. As I've said...all objective evidence is probabilistic in its nature of necessity. However that goes for relevant scientific evidence as well...
  8. setarcos

    Shifting more towards atheism

    You mean formulating the "possibility" of a worst case scenario from "possibly" factual circumstances don't you?
  9. setarcos

    Shifting more towards atheism

    Oh but there are probabilistic reasons for believing "not proving" that some sort of Godlike being may exist. Its mostly a matter of how your willing to interpret the data. In my opinion agnosticism is just an irrational fear of engaging in the debate. Oooh I feel like, or it seems to me, but I...
  10. setarcos

    Shifting more towards atheism

    I wonder...how do you describe the flaw in Pascal's Wager?
  11. setarcos

    Shifting more towards atheism

    Lol...aren't we all silly humans. In the words of Frost...."round and round we go and suppose while the secret sits in the middle and knows." Theists insisting Atheists believe there is no God and Atheists insist they have no beliefs concerning such things. One could intimately investigate the...
  12. setarcos

    Should fighting sports be legal? Are they moral?

    We are animals first and foremost. But we are also elevated animals in that we have relatively sophisticated cognitive abilities and or spiritual gifts ,some would say, which have evolved mankind beyond simple instinctual and base behaviors of survival and dominance. What you see in the ring...
  13. setarcos

    Instantaneous action/reaction

    :thumbsup:
  14. setarcos

    Instantaneous action/reaction

    Yes...fascinating stuff. Thanks for sharing the link. I was referring to limits of speed of energy transference not specifically whether or not light quanta can go slower than its maximum speed.
  15. setarcos

    Instantaneous action/reaction

    Thanks for the reply. Very interesting stuff. At what point do you think does the change in spacing between atoms become effectively zero? And what happens at that point do you think? Seems to me if the spacing between atoms is sufficiently close to zero then atomic particle structure comes into...
  16. setarcos

    Instantaneous action/reaction

    Why does the energy transfer at the speed of sound through the material and not say...near the speed of light as we get with electromagnetic transferences of energy?
  17. setarcos

    Instantaneous action/reaction

    You'll have to elaborate on what you mean by this. If all of the energy remains behind the projectile, what happens when the projectile strikes the target ahead of its trailing "energy cone"? The kinetic energy of the projectile remains with the projectile and transfers at the moment of impact...
  18. setarcos

    Instantaneous action/reaction

    Of note...theoretically in an AC power line the net movement of electrons is zero. They do not flow through the line from one end to the other, instead they oscillate states. During this oscillation the electrons supposedly do move a minimal distance before reversing. But that's neither here...
  19. setarcos

    What does God do when Jesus becomes ruler over the created world?

    Here is what we can glean from scripture about Gods kingdom. 1)It will be a kingdom ruled by Christ with absolute authority forever in Heaven AND on Earth 2) That Kingdom as it will be is not yet established 3) That Kingdom will consist of Gods spiritual blessings flowing from the absolutely...
  20. setarcos

    A Christian becomes a nonbeliever

    Um....thanks for the reply...I guess? Seems a bit harsh and unnecessarily confrontational for a friendly discussion but perhaps that's just your style. I agree..."love" gets equivocated, misused , misapplied, misunderstood and whatever else you wish to throw in there but only in so much as we...
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