Oeste said:
The Father is speaking in the first person here. He says the Son is God.
No, He did Not. It’s the Trinitarians’ misinterpretation of that passage, which we know, taken from the OT (Psalm 45) in which no such thing as ‘and to the son..’ was mentioned.
Oeste said:
It is important to...
Oeste said:
No, your rendering of John 1:1 is an aberrant reading to virtually every major Christian denomination one can think of, which is unsurprising since you believe scripture is "corrupted" and a "mixture of truth and lies".
It's simply your personal opinion, unsupported and not...
Oeste said:
So now you tell us 'O God' in verse is a reference to a human, but that human is not Jesus???!!!
Even though the verse IMMEDIATELY PRIOR tells us the Father is speaking about the Son???!!!
Let's repeat that 'O God" verse again:
But about the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, will...
Oeste said:
Of course it's an aberrant reading.
John 1:14, just 13 verses after our reading of John 1:1, tells us exactly who the Word is:
"The Word became flesh and dwelt among us".
It’s only an aberrant reading to the Trinitarians because they simply cannot accept the fact that God Creates by...
Oeste said:
when the Father has already told us Jesus is God:
But about the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above...
Oeste said:
That is certainly an aberrant reading of John 1:1!
No, it's not an aberrant reading, it's what Psalm 33.9 said that God creates by just uttering a word on whatever or whoever He wants to create into existence, so yes, the Word of God becomes a man, the Word of God becomes light too...
Oeste said:
That’s a pretty big, unfounded “if” bolded above, one not found in scripture.
Jesus was not created.
Of course, Jesus was created by God, that is, by His Will and on His Command - a command which came from God Himself – that’s how God creates anything or anyone, that is, God...
Oeste wrote –
[“Then who do you say "God Almighty" is? You offer no support with for your argument and from your profile I cannot tell is you are Christian, skeptic, Bahai, atheist or other.”.]
God Almighty is the same God Almighty who told Moses, “... I am the God of Abraham, the God of...
That’s funny…. I was thinking the same too about you saying you will refuse to respond to my posts in the future.
So, if you do not respond to my posts (not that it makes any difference), it reveals a lot about you.
Are you capable of discussing the subject or not?
A good advice which you should heed yourself.
I suggest you make an effort to understand your own Bible.
Discard your "Jesus is God" approach and let the Bible show you the truth, without folks like you trying to ‘tailor-fit’ your man-made doctrine into the Scripture.
Still mumbling nonsense, are you?? Stop making yourself sound like someone incapable of thinking!
Here’s the thing – Jesus IS NOT God!! Why??
- because God Almighty NEVER says Jesus is God!
- because Jesus himself NEVER says or implies he’s God!
- because in your own Bible, Jesus denied he’s...
Still mumbling nonsense, are you?? Stop making yourself sound like someone incapable of thinking!
Here’s the thing – Jesus IS NOT God!! Why??
- because God Almighty NEVER says Jesus is God!
- because Jesus himself NEVER says or implies he’s God!
- because in your own Bible, Jesus denied he’s...
Why, oh why, is it so difficult for you and some others to understand this fact: when you make bold claims and/or statements on any scriptural characters, you need to back it up with scriptural verse(s) too, else your claims are just, as you put it, of no value. Likewise, its foolish to quote 1...
You wrote -
“Don't bother discussing anything with @JerryMyers . He is nothing but confrontational and what he says is of no value. I feel very sorry for him.”.
Well, that speaks volumes of your character, @jimb.
I would never try to influence anyone from discussing anything with you or...
You wrote –
“Clearly you don't understand what "being open to being taught by God" means.”
I doubt whether you even know how to differentiate between what’s taught by God and what’s taught by man.
You wrote -
Also, I have no interest in what you have to say. Since you revel in personal...
You wrote -
“First, calling @jimb ‘mentally-challenge’ because you do not understand his belief about Jesus is extremely low of you. Also, calling somebody ‘mentally-challenge’ or ‘mentally challenged’ is not only an insult to that person but also to individuals who really do have learning...
You wrote -
“You are totally wrong about my mind being closed. It's just the opposite. I, unlike yourself, am OPEN to being taught by God.”.
Being ‘OPEN’ would mean you are willing to hear opposing explanations of your belief. If you disagree, then you would provide logic and rational rebuttal...
So, John 17:1-5 is ‘proof’ that Jesus is God?? LOL
Let me guess, ‘Jesus is God’ because God gave Jesus all authority over humanity?? So, what authority did God give Jesus?
Try to read that passage in its proper context. The authority that God gave Jesus is NOT the authority to take over God’s...
Proof of the Trinity???!! Are you on drugs???
Why did Jesus say “, whom I will send you from the Father ….” ??
That’s because earlier in John 14:16, Jesus has made it clear “ And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate/Helper..”.
The phrase “…from the Father…” in John...