So are you saying that this verse is stating that Jesus is God? Read it again. It says, shall be called. This is a future prophecy about the coming Messiah.
And let me guess, what words are you saying that he's God on?... The mighty God? Or Everlasting father?
I'll explain...
Out of all of the words in the bible, why do people have to make up words and bring them into their doctrines. Jesus IS the image of God, yes, but that doesnt make him God. Scripture tells us that he is the "son of God", why cant we just use that? Why bring in words like "incarnate" and...
[And scripture also tells us that WE can become God's children.]
Are you referring to something in the future for us? We are children of God now too.
Gal 3v26 "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put...
Your missing the whole point. Your talking about two different scenarios. Yes, a dog will give birth to a dog. A human will give birth to a human, etc, etc. But that's not the case here with Jesus. God created a man to be born of a woman. He had to be born of a woman to inherit Adam's...
All scripture is God inspired. So why would we say anything different. And who are we to question the creator of the Universe.
Second...... if you have four people sitting around the table and someone put an apple in the center of it and were told to write a 10 page document on the...
Ok, I agree with you in most of this post except on "Why not all members of a god family are all gods."
First of all, scripture tells us that Jesus is not a god or God. God's Spirit caused Mary to become pregnant with child. It does say that he was born a god because his father was God, it...
[There is a family or group named God.]
I disagree. I not seeing that wording in scripture.
[In that family or team there are two persons. They are both separate persons but they are both in the family or group or team called God. ONE God One family. One team.]
One God is correct. But no...
Your choice of words are different. It's like your trying to make something else of something. Not really sure where your heading.
A husband and wife are two people, correct, but they are also one flesh in marriage Godly principles. And our heavenly father doesnt want that separated.
I'm...
1 Corin 11 v 3 IS the Godhead.
Col 2 "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." And I agree with that. But that is not saying that Jesus is God or co-equal with God. And who is above Jesus? God is. 1 Corin 11v3.
And what do you mean "essence" of God. Not...
Sure it does. Scripture does tell us that Eve was deceived. 1 Tim 2 "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."
Adam knew it was wrong, Eve didnt.
[Are you sure that logos could not mean spokesman?]
Yes, it does not mean that...
[ The Word is the one who speaks for God.]
I think your looking at the word "Word" differently from me. Not sure why......
[No one has heard God's voice but Moses heard the spokesman speaking from the burning...
Just a quick comment here. Jesus did not create anything, GOD did. If.... and if... a certain version of someone's bible says that Jesus created everything... is wrong and it's a bad translation. Well, first of all, how do we know that. We can look at certain programs and certain...
The trinity's Godhead is not in scripture. But the true Godhead is in 1 Cor 11v3, big difference!!!
So what would your verse be on the Trinity's Godhead? Just curious.......
[if it does not jive with the Bible or seems overtly incompatible it is probably an error, misinterpretation or a false or incorrect doctrine.]
Wouldnt that be the trinity itself then?
[Because of looking at all the Gospel verses that relate to Jesus and God that may give one a clue as to exactly what that relationship is.]
The Gospel tells us exactly who Jesus is, plus we have the writings of Apostles to tell us that. Jesus is the son of God. Born of a woman, same as us in...
But also keep in mind, that God is our savior, our rock, our redeemer, etc. But now, just like scripture says, He does it through his son. He gave his son all power and authority. We really need to stop calling Jesus God.
But why would we want to understand the trinity?....
I like these verses...
1. "Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one"
2. "Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any." Isaiah 44
3. "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and...
Actually, it was a fact. Yes, there were some people who believed that Jesus was God, but it wasnt made official until the counsel of Nicea. That's what that meeting was all about.
If you talk to a Jew on that subject today, he would find that repulsive!! If anyone people should...
Ok, a few things here that I dont understand....
1. Isnt the Holy Spirit the power of God? Why do you want to make the HS a person? I find nowhere in scripture that tells us that it is a person. Doesnt really make sense, does it....
2. [We call it "the Mystery of the Trinity"...