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  1. Moonjuice

    Nonsensical

    Completely incorrect. Air is part of the natural world, Gods are not. There is irrefutable evidence that air exists, we can even measure the contents of the gases that make up "air". 100% of all thinking people agree that air exists (including both secular and religious scientists - after all...
  2. Moonjuice

    Absence of good in atheism

    Truth vs. lie is a a religious term? Texas is the largest state in America. Nope, Alaska is. One is true, one is a lie. Enjoy the religious discussion.
  3. Moonjuice

    Did God really write a book?

    Ahh, then we are simply in agreement that god didn’t write anything in the Bible. I was looking for the evidence that shows he did write it (directly or indirectly).
  4. Moonjuice

    Where Did these Beliefs Come From?

    Repelled? I’m referring to Christians not agreeing with each other on the way they interpret scripture, despite being proclaimed followers or avid students of the Bible. Clearly you think your interpretation is correct and so do they. Until RF, I had no idea Christians existed that didn’t...
  5. Moonjuice

    Did God really write a book?

    No, that's not what I said. A scientific fact that was not known at the time, later proven to be true could simply be an educated guess by a human. Darwin did it MANY times, he was not your God I presume. I am asking if there are any verses in any of the books of the bible that make it clear...
  6. Moonjuice

    Did God really write a book?

    If there was sufficient evidence to prove it without any doubt, then the evidence would force me to know there is a real God. I'm not saying god would force me, the evidence would.
  7. Moonjuice

    Did God really write a book?

    I'm certain that all the authors were inspired by the idea of their god.
  8. Moonjuice

    Did God really write a book?

    I remain unconvinced. There are plenty of people capable of uttering a simple moral precept like this, including you and me. When I read this, all I see is the moral concept that we should "treat people the way we want to be treated", just reworded. Which, as we all know, is a moral...
  9. Moonjuice

    Did God really write a book?

    I don't picture god as the creator of the universe at all. I'm referring to those religions that do. If you have religious text that tells you "god" in whatever way the book describes god, created the universe, and he also wrote the book, then that is god I am referring to.
  10. Moonjuice

    Did God really write a book?

    Totally agree.
  11. Moonjuice

    Did God really write a book?

    I am using the standard picture that god is the creator of the entire universe. This covers most of the worlds major religions that are based on texts that claim to be the word of god.
  12. Moonjuice

    Did God really write a book?

    Of course men can and do write profound things. What I am asking is in the holy texts of major religions, many claim that books were actually written directly by god or delivered to humans from god by way of angels, or revelation. Just like you did. You claim God wrote the Quran. I'm saying I...
  13. Moonjuice

    RIGHT! Man, Beck has some of the craziest lyrics I've ever seen.

    RIGHT! Man, Beck has some of the craziest lyrics I've ever seen.
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  14. Moonjuice

    Did God really write a book?

    I agree, I think it is impossible. If god actually wrote a book, I would expect the contents of the message to be more profound than what we see. What we see, in my opinion, are books that are written by humans, clearly coming from the human mind. If it was coming from the all powerful creator...
  15. Moonjuice

    Did God really write a book?

    Is there a single verse in that book that proves it had to be written by a God, because it could only have come from a God? If so, the evidence will force me to at least accept that a God does exist.
  16. Moonjuice

    Faith

    That is called instinct, not faith. Obviously, babies don't start to walk because they have faith they can do it.
  17. Moonjuice

    Did God really write a book?

    Really? I think I have examined every "prophecy" in the bible. I haven't found a single one to be even remotely convincing. What is the most obvious and powerful prophecy that you find so convincing? Maybe I missed something.
  18. Moonjuice

    Faith

    This is why we have to agree on the meaning of words. Earlier, you said this: "If you were married or in serious relationship, wouldn't you have to have faith that your partner would not cheat, or that she would do her fair share in the relationship? How could you ever know absolutely?" Now...
  19. Moonjuice

    Question to atheists and agnotics: why are you not a deist?

    Why is that appealing?
  20. Moonjuice

    Question to atheists and agnotics: why are you not a deist?

    Simple question. I have not been convinced a god created the universe, that's why I'm not a deist. As a side note, it is also meaningless to me if the God that does exist does not interact with us in any way. In that case, that gods existence doesn't matter to me any more than the existence of...
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