And you don't think those who view science as the ultimate arbiter of truth are guilty of trespassing into the domain of religion, and make assertions of faith out to be assertions of facts? As I said, I really don't believe there is such a thing as non-overlapping magisteria, because the...
Both deal with reality. As I just asked in the post before this one, you don't think questions of purpose and maning have any bearing on reality to human beings? I'd venture to say they are central to it. "Why do I exist? What is this all about".
BTW, I don't believe these are non-overlapping...
Are they? Aren't they each looking for finding truth to live by?
Well, that is complete false. Religion has generated a great deal of progress by helping guide societies away from blood feuds and kinship systems, to more community based and even cosmopolitan societies. Hell, even as primitive...
The problem with this is that science uses metaphors all the time. They are unavoidable. And in fact, metaphors are the most practical and useful ways to communicate ideas.
This is a great article that goes into this very issue. There is a 45 debate video in it, which I plan to watch later, but...
While I too find the OP's claims to be wildly overstated, I'll play devil's advocate here on a few points. To say religious philosophies are well ahead of science may be not entirely untrue. Science isn't about philosophy, while religion clearly is. So it's not inappropriate to say that the...
According to the Gospel of Thomas in saying 37, only nudists will know the truth:
His disciples said: On what day will you be revealed to us, and on what day shall we see you? Jesus said: When you unclothe yourselves and are not ashamed, and take your garments and lay them beneath your feet...
Of course you don't, as you don't have much to support your views with.
Who's talking about pacifism? I'm not. I believe in the law. I believe in self-defense. I just reject this notion to justice=violent retribution.
Well, you created a strawman argument that I believe in pacifism, which I...
No. That's vengeance. It is a Retributive Justice, or a payback for wrongs done. But it is ineffective at reformation. It does not heal society and make people less prone to wrong actions. There is also other forms or ideas of justice, such as a Distributive Justice, where everyone is treated...
I don't look at them in terms of "reliability". That is not a factor in my mind. Do the words themselves speak of a deeper wisdom in practicality? If yes, than they have truth and value to them, regardless of the mythmaking processes. Mythologies are simply stories to tell human truths, to teach...
I'm imagining you in the crowd saying this to Jesus upon your hearing him say this:
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants...
If one considers progressive moving from the bad old days of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, to the better brighter future of love and tolerance where we do not render evil for evil and do not judge others by your own beliefs and values, then Jesus qualifies as a progressive.
What...
Perhaps you are not following my argument. I'm talking paradigm shifts. Radical new ways of thinking about what we know of the natural world that revolutionize the sciences. Quantum Mechanics is one of those. I'm talking about something that makes what seems impossible to us now given the best...
I noticed you don't give any real examples. But my first response is this. 99% of the time in claims like this, it's nothing more than just a modern reinterpretation of the Bible that tries to make it seems as if it fits the science. But in reality it is really is just a bad reading of the text...
Why is it not just as likely we will have some breakthrough in the future? Because why exactly? What context are you imagining that makes this different?
In a sense maybe. It's more just co-opting a language without understand it, like kids using big grown up words when they don't know what they really mean. As they say, kids say the darndest things.
That we can think of given what we know right now. The problem I hear, is I don't hear any conditional language being said like what I am using. I hear absolutist language saying it is impossible instead. That's all I'm pointing out.