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  1. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    It's all for us, the very apple of God's eye, the pinnacle of his creation, right? And more specifically, it's for those who join the right religion and the join the right church and believe the right beliefs. I am the very heart and center of God's great universe. It is all for me!! In other...
  2. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    Part 2... Yeah, only by improperly viewing the nature of faith as bad beliefs. But that is a total strawman argument. Easy to knock down. If we care to talk about faith in the context I raised, then lets narrow it to understanding it the context of meaning making and one's ultimate concern. Not...
  3. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    That's not what I mean by a deep experience. That's just cultural programming and the experience of life lived through that programming. That is by definition a shallow experience. It is the unexamined life. By deep experience, I mean something that breaks free from that. I mean something...
  4. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    So you are ignoring everything I pointed out from scripture in support of my views because of your personal interpretation of this one verse of scripture and this one word that is anything but clear in its meaning? I'm well aware of that verse as well, but I don't believe "image of God", should...
  5. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    To surprisingly defend the poster you were responding to with this, he was citing your posts because of what Aupmanyav had said in Post #238. "Normally, atheist answers are short and succinct, while those of theists are long, convoluted, difficult to understand and contrary to science." I was...
  6. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    This is true. It depends. In some cases very easy if what they say violates what I know from experience to be true, such as "hate your neighbor" is the way to deepen your spiritual life. It's quite easy for me to reject that based upon deep experiences. But if someone envisions God differently...
  7. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    Hyper literalism, me? Quite the exact opposite is true. Most people don't understand that most of what they believe to be literally true, is actually all metaphors. :) BTW, I believe I'm articulating it well enough. I think the issue may be that you don't understand the basis for what I'm...
  8. Windwalker

    If all world people turn atheists.

    I love this line, "Where God is also love; but without words", from the poem "Whales Weep Not", by D.H. Lawrence. And enormous mother whales lie dreaming suckling their whale- tender young and dreaming with strange whale eyes wide open in the waters of the beginning and the end. And...
  9. Windwalker

    If all world people turn atheists.

    Hmm, yes I suppose. Makes me wonder then if Trump gets elected and the U.S. Constitution is flushed down the toilet completely this time around, would American be a fashioned as cult? God knows MAGA is in fact a religious nationalistic cult centered around Donald the Orange at its core.
  10. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    Yes, okay I've considered these things myself in thoughts about religion. I could add a couple myself to the things they touch on, such as mystical states of consciousness common to human experience. In this sense, yes we are very much wired to be 'religious' thinkers. But this then begs two...
  11. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    My argument is that for anyone to self-identify as an atheist, they absolutely have some idea of what that word means when they say they are an atheist in contrast to a theist, or believer in that idea of God. It makes no sense at all for me to say I don't believe unicorns are real, if I've...
  12. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    You'll have to help clarify what you mean by the "3rd-state". As I'm not sure what you mean there, and can't say I "lack a belief it it" at this point. :) But yes, I agree that reality is experienced as different at different levels. And hopefully this will get to what I'm getting at. You'll...
  13. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    Do you believe I meant they would actually vocalize speech, that suddenly you hear rocks crying and making human speeches? :) Of course these are metaphors or figures of speech, but they are pointing to something real. These rocks, these lilies, these trees, these lakes, these skies, all...
  14. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    As I pointed out earlier, would you find it proper to say you have a lack of belief in something that you don't know what it is? Of course not. If someone used a term I was unfamiliar with, I would not say I had a lack of belief in it. I very well may fully believe in it, once I understood what...
  15. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    Clearly you have an idea of what God is in order to call yourself an atheist. If someone where to ask me if I believe in Prakels, I would simply answer I don't know that is, so I can't say if I believe in it or don't. I might, but I just don't know what that word means. Is that what you are...
  16. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    I'm not sure I agree with that anymore than I agree they are hardwired to be atheists. Can you support this notion?
  17. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    Why do you lack belief in God? What is it about that idea you don't accept as valid? So then you believe the baby is able to conceptualize reality in terms of a "who", or in abstractions such as "president", or "teacher", or God, but they simply lack the linguist skills to express their...
  18. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    Please answer how you would choose to answer it then. Do you believe God exists? Or put another way, do you believe that God does not exist? You are free to form your answer to that question however you wish. Also, if I were to ask a baby that question, how do you suppose it might respond? Same...
  19. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    Do you believe God does not exist? It's a simple yes or no question.
  20. Windwalker

    Ever notice how atheists are virtually always on the opposite side from God on many issues?

    Images of Mr. Ed come to mind.
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