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  1. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    I don't either, lol. Not really, but the main reason is because I'm not sure any of them will work.
  2. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    Well, at least to give us more of an even playing field. I realize we animals will still do what we do. But a lot of unnecessary suffering will stop, yes. I'm not prepared to share them.
  3. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    Not to enlighten others per se, but to create an enlightened world. Are you sure you're doubting the plan (that I don't have yet), or is it the goal?
  4. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    I don't know how I will proceed. I wouldn't be hanging around here if I did. But I've had some bloody good ideas already, none of which would yield results in my lifetime (and that doesn't matter to me). I wrote this as an illustration: Go anywhere you want, because you belong there. Stay if...
  5. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    Good. This is where I'm differing from others here. When I had my brush with enlightenment, it did two basic things. 1) It revealed itself as the most powerful tool I've ever witnessed. 2) It solidified the personal commitment to compassionate living I had already made. I had a brief look at my...
  6. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    I think the baby is being thrown out with the bathwater here. You're telling me my wish to help others is no good until I am .. further .. enlightened?
  7. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    May I request that this thread be moved to a place where debate can occur? I didn't know where to begin it in the first place, and the idea of debate being stifled abhors me. I'm not sure that I can, other than to say that in my view, we are choosing to do the wrong things.
  8. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    Okay. I'm saying I'm in doubt as to the level of compassion throughout the world. Why so little progress?
  9. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    If you say so, but what is it going to achieve - other than for you?
  10. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    Maybe I could go back through the thread and do that, but it's the evidence; 800,000 people were brutally killed, and it wasn't necessary. And it's happening again. Whatever we enlightened people think we're doing, isn't doing much, so what are we doing? If the inference of doing nothing is...
  11. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    And yet you apparently choose to do nothing. I believe this is the same message 800,000 Rwandans got in 1994.
  12. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    Yes! It's almost too bad that I have moved on from there.
  13. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    You would probably need a different teacher than I.
  14. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    To clarify; if you identify the necessity of "X" in an equation, AND you are able to remove it from the equation, then your equation may be able to deduce what "X" is, without touching it.
  15. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    "I went to the doctor, I went to the mountains I looked to the children, I drank from the fountains Theres more than one answer to these questions Pointing me in a crooked line" I am still considering this. All paths appear crooked. And I'm not convinced that my "fineness" is relevant.
  16. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    I can confirm that I do feel I am creating problems here. Taking it easy does not seem to want me at this time. This is also a feature of my mental illness. And I feel that I've already spent too much of my life doing nothing.
  17. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    But I have this sense that there isn't "a teacher" ... or at least, that they will only appear when I'm ready, and that this will be clear. As far as "not worth knowing"; this can also mean "worth removing from the equation".
  18. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    My form of continuation includes questioning all advice.
  19. kaat

    To those who understand enlightenment

    I believe all I know about myself is that I'm prepared to continue.
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