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    So why did God allow Christians to be lead astray for so long?

    Jesus DID say he would form a church. Where was that church located until yours came into existence? It appears that no one held what you believe to be true which necessitated the formation of your organization 1800 years later. Face it. None of the wheat held what you believed until the 1800's...
  2. W

    The Trinity

    Forget about another perfect man. The infinite was offended. You need an infinite to atone to the infinite. You need an equal being to atone, not an inferior created being.
  3. W

    The Trinity

    It's in your JW indoctrination which fails all logic. I can't help that. A: Your logic fails in that you think a perfect man can balance the scales of justice. IF a perfect man was offended in the Garden of Eden, then the sacrifice of a perfect man would balance the scales of justice. But more...
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    The Trinity

    He has to be both God and man to atone for the sin of Adam. There is no way around it.
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    Where do you draw the line at adherence to OT laws vs what it says in the NT?

    Melchezidek was both king and high priest and offered bread and wine. Jesus is both king and high priest and offered bead and wine. Hebrews 6:19-20New International Version (NIV) 19 We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain...
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    Where do you draw the line at adherence to OT laws vs what it says in the NT?

    When you change the priesthood from Levitical (Moses) to Melchezidek (Jesus) you change the Law.
  7. W

    So why did God allow Christians to be lead astray for so long?

    So as soon as the apostles passed from the scene, the apostacy took over? There you go. Jesus was a liar. There was no truth to be found in any church. Jesus did say church, did he not? And you still can't point me to where this supposed "wheat/church" was located that has the same beliefs as...
  8. W

    What was the nature of Jesus?

    So you don't believe Jesus is God? That would explain your position. And if such, you have no atonement. No redemption.
  9. W

    So why did God allow Christians to be lead astray for so long?

    What is the occasion? That's what I want to know.
  10. W

    So why did God allow Christians to be lead astray for so long?

    Can't tell us who they were, huh? I thought so. So Jesus is a liar and a sinner. Sad.
  11. W

    What was the nature of Jesus?

    So you're implying that only a part of Jesus died on the cross? He wasn't fully dead? You're dividing/separating the natures? Only the human nature died on the cross? If so, you have no atonement. So if you believe that Jesus was just a man or a' special' man, there was no need for his death...
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    So why did God allow Christians to be lead astray for so long?

    So tell me, what exactly was Jesus doing at the Last Supper? What religious ceremony was he performing?
  13. W

    So why did God allow Christians to be lead astray for so long?

    So you can't name them. They're just shadow figures and so the gates of hell prevailed against Christ's Church.
  14. W

    So why did God allow Christians to be lead astray for so long?

    So why did Jesus say that the wine was the chalice of his blood? Was he mocking the Law of God? Why infer that the content of the chalice was his blood and give it to his apostles to drink? Was Jesus promoting pagan theology? Or maybe just a Jewish comedian telling a joke to his friends before...
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    So why did God allow Christians to be lead astray for so long?

    Tell us where they, the wheat, were. You can't and never will be able to. Where were these brothers? Can you link your church to these brothers so that Jesus is not a liar? Nope. You have an 1800 year gap that you can not fill.
  16. W

    What was the nature of Jesus?

    It all depends on who you believe Jesus to be. If you believe him to be God/man in one person, then that person, both God and man, died on the cross. You can't separate the natures. A mere man that dies on the cross has no sacrificial value to the infinite. BTW, to die does not mean go out of...
  17. W

    So why did God allow Christians to be lead astray for so long?

    It's not cannibalism as Jesus is a superior being, God/man. If you ate a chicken last night, it's not cannibalism as it is an inferior being. The same goes for Jesus, a superior being. It's not cannibalism. God's law on consuming blood refers to blood used in atonement.
  18. W

    So why did God allow Christians to be lead astray for so long?

    I see you need some help with Church history. No one prays to idols in the church. Mary is the mother of Jesus. Jesus gets his entire human nature from her. If a person believes Jesus is God, then Mary is the Mother of God. People send themselves to hell or whatever you want to call it, as they...
  19. W

    What was the nature of Jesus?

    God died on the cross or else death is not redeemed. From conception to death, all phases of human nature are redeemed by the death of Jesus on the cross. You can't leave death out of the game plan.
  20. W

    So why did God allow Christians to be lead astray for so long?

    Your thought is correct. Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against his church. According to Protestants, JW's, etc., Satan prevailed against the Church of Christ for 1500 to 1800 years, thus making Jesus a liar and a sinner.
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