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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    Gods word is the absolute authority for me. Every man has the freedom to choose. You can believe it or not believe it. :) 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not...
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    I am not evading the question. I am simply saying...".I don't know" and I am now ok with not knowing. (I certainly could speculate) but God had it handled! how about that answer for an intellectual debate forum :) I know that the God that saved my soul is a merciful, loving God that I need not...
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    You know, I asked all the same questions as you....I was a free thinker that questioned the life out of everything, but after my life ordeal, God became so much bigger than all my questions. In a different time and a different place, God did not abandon the human race, he could have communicated...
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    For me, it is the bible but to each his own. I make no assertions that I know everything, but I do know for myself that I did not heed Gods warnings, and by no merit of my own, He saved me from a very dark place. I speak from deep gratitude.
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    You need to prove nothing to me :) you are certainly free to practice your spirituality any way you wish!
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    :) maybe I am evading the issue, sorry, not meaning to, If God tells us to prove all things, that standard cannot be added to or subtracted from or it is no longer truth. (Once again, this only applies if you believe it is true). I don't need to prove if someone loves or doesn't love God, (He...
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    The emotion is not where the burden of proof lies, it's in the definition of what love is and isn't. I don't need to prove the heart of a man, but we do need to prove additions or subtractions to the standard. (Of course that only applies if you believe the standard is truth) A persons heart is...
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    I can't say I love you and hit you because love is gentle, if the standard is subjective then love becomes anything we make it.
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    I think that we can look to God for the definitive standard and example of love. Can I prove the emotion of the love I feel? No I cannot, but I have an absolute standard of what love is and what love isn't. My feelings are subjective, but the example of love God gives is not.
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    Btw, I still don't know how to use this forum correctly haha. I cannot seem to select a post to respond to.
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    I am confused because we cannot obtain proof of anything without an absolute authoritative standard. I can say "god wants me to do xyz" and without a definitive standard, my claims cannot be proved nor disproved. If the scriptures are subjective, they cannot be truth.
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    Not sure how to respond to specific posts...please advise :)
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    I would agree that tradition, man made holidays, feel good conveniences and worldly endeavors have taken hold (almost taken over) the church as we know it, I definitely won't argue there, but simply because we have done so much nonsense based on our own ideas (not scripture), it certainly...
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    Aren't we (according to scripture) to prove ALL things? How do we prove all things? What is the standard by which we measure our experiences? If meditation is a Christian practice which includes more than simply pondering the scriptures, wouldn't there be passages that detail and teach the...
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    What is Contemplative Christianity?

    I am new to this forum and have followed many conversations. I am learning a lot as I go, I do reject your opposition to any negative experiences associated with meditative practices. You are so quick to dismiss their claims over to fear and ignorance. What if those dismissals are actually...
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