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  1. e.r.m.

    What Is The Purpose Of Baptism?

    Water can be made safe.
  2. e.r.m.

    What Is The Purpose Of Baptism?

    Indeed you are not. By the same token, you cannot legitimately claim that you answered the question. You can't have it both ways. Cutting out whole sections of scripture that don't fit with one's theology isn't good either.
  3. e.r.m.

    What Is The Purpose Of Baptism?

    I was just trying to add that to my original post. They made up inherited sin and infant baptism.
  4. e.r.m.

    What Is The Purpose Of Baptism?

    That church made it up.
  5. e.r.m.

    What Is The Purpose Of Baptism?

    You did not address water baptisms from Acts onward. That's avoiding.
  6. e.r.m.

    What Is The Purpose Of Baptism?

    Infant Baptism is not mentioned in the Bible. If it does convey any blessing, it is not related to the Bible. Adult baptism is unavoidably connected with faith in the Bible to be of any value, which is involved in the absolvement of sin, clothing oneself with Christ, receiving the indwelling of...
  7. e.r.m.

    Baptism: How necessary is it?

    I don't believe it's symbolism, as there was never an expectation expressed in the Bible for anyone to symbolize dying to sin and rising up to eternal life. It makes no sense to assign anything, like baptism, to fulfill a non-existent expectation.
  8. e.r.m.

    Baptism: How necessary is it?

    Perhaps. I'm not sure if while on earth, we'll ever confirm what He meant by "fulfill all righteousness". A Christian baptism is not the professing of their faith in God the Father and Son and Holy Spirit. There would have to be at least one verse in the entire New Testament that describes...
  9. e.r.m.

    Baptism: How necessary is it?

    Thank you for clarifying, and sorry if I misrepresented your point in my rebuttal. I feel I must clarify some things in turn, which I did not make clear initially due to not understanding where you were coming from, for I which I blame only myself. 1. It is not my position that it is essential...
  10. e.r.m.

    Baptism: How necessary is it?

    You may know indeed know volumes more than you presented. I wasn't trying to suggest otherwise. What was presented, however, is all I was addressing. The adultress cannot discount the significance of baptism in Jesus's name. Same goes for anyone before baptism in Jesus's name Matthew 28:19 Acts...
  11. e.r.m.

    Baptism: How necessary is it?

    I asked a Rabbi if their mikveh was merely a commemoration of the conversion to Judaism or part of the conversion itself, and he said very emphatically it's part of the conversion itself. I don't know of any literature, history, or any Jewish authority who would say it's just an identification...
  12. e.r.m.

    Baptism: How necessary is it?

    Any analysis that goes beyond the surface will reveal that baptism in Jesus's name was first commanded after Jesus's resurrection. From that point, it was expected, not from before then which included the woman committing adultery.
  13. e.r.m.

    Baptism: How necessary is it?

    The purpose of baptism in water in Jesus's name is -Acts 2:38 ...and be baptized for the remission (forgiveness) of your sins... -Acts 22:16 ...arise, and be baptized and wash away thy sins, ... Self explanatory. -Romans 6:2,5-7 May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it...
  14. e.r.m.

    What Is The Purpose Of Baptism?

    Agreed. I agree with both of you. None of us today can come into physical contact with Jesus's blood. None of us can use Jesus's blood to paint on our doors, as was done in Egypt. His sacrifice is applied when we believe and are baptized.
  15. e.r.m.

    What Is The Purpose Of Baptism?

    That doesn't answer the question.
  16. e.r.m.

    What Is The Purpose Of Baptism?

    What was that original statement for which you are calling God a psycho?
  17. e.r.m.

    What Is The Purpose Of Baptism?

    There is no scripture for -Christian's first act of obedience. -Publically identifying with Christ or public profession of faith. -Having a public event announcing that we are now a Christian. -"Symbolizing"/"representing"/"illustrating" the dbr. The Bible comes up empty on these.
  18. e.r.m.

    What Is The Purpose Of Baptism?

    The purpose of baptism in water in Jesus's name is -Acts 2:38 ...and be baptized for the remission (forgiveness) of your sins... -Acts 22:16 ...arise, and be baptized and wash away thy sins, ... Self explanatory. -Romans 6:2,5-7 May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in...
  19. e.r.m.

    What Is The Purpose Of Baptism?

    The Bible does say that.
  20. e.r.m.

    What Is The Purpose Of Baptism?

    Lineage matters not Matthew 3:9. Following matters.
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