And then, the ultimate in sheer chutzpah, after basically functioning as a global criminal child sexual abuse conspiracy for decades, until they were finally busted, the Church has the affrontery to go around making moral pronouncements, as though it had some expertise on the subject. It's galling.
I don't think a school board, or the Boy Scouts, or most other organizations, have hidden the perpetrators, transferred them to other assignments with no warning to the families, refused to open their records, fail to cooperate with law enforcement authorities, and continue to employ and shield...
I never said I was done; you did. Apparently we should regard your statements with some skepticism.
But apparently having sex with little children is just fine?
What is?
science is a process of using a proven method to overcome our common sense. Common sense tells us that the world is flat, the moon is a small disk that travels above it, and so forth. Science demonstrates that our common sense is wrong.
Although I don't find magic poofing to be very sensible...
Stop there. I don't know what you mean.
O.K.
Why not?
There appears to be something rather rational
As it should be.
I think the only failsafe is to make predictions and see how they pan out.
I don't know what you mean by nature being irrational.
A Turing machine is a hypothetical...
Nah, I've just expressed my opinion, how I see things. See how I say, "for me," and "in my view" as opposed to "God has decreed"?
I think it tends to work a lot better than ensuring compliance with God's will as revealed to the enforcer.
Harris. I think it's weak.
*sob* I'm on the teacher...
So when you said you weren't going to engage with me you were what...just kidding?
Yes, priests can just go get a hooker. Why not? No, they're not done for, as we have observed. They can do whatever they like, and the Vatican power structure will protect them. In any case, they can change their...
There's no leap, and there's no going from irrational to rational. When certain physical, chemical, electrical things happen in our brains, it produces certain sensations. That's all there is to the circus.
Let's go back to a Turing machine. In your view, can it do what you call "rational?"
Which is a massive computer made of cells.
You seem to envision some other, separate, world, the rational world, made of abstract ideas, that actually exists somewhere. They are just notions we invent to describe reality, words that we define and manipulate.
I'm guessing you're a Platonist...
It's a Deist God. A god who decreed that E = m(c) squared and a = pi (r) squared, that matter/energy must be conserved, threw the switch, and watched the whole enormous fireworks. Proportionately, we literally the miniscule inhabitants of the skin of a subatomic particle of that.
I find it...
Actually, you don't know that. All you know is that we haven't figured it out...so far. Most scientific questions we have set our minds to we have figured out--eventually.
If it can't be perceived by definition, not that it's just beyond the scope of what our ears can hear, but by definition is not hearable, then by the same definition I would say no, it can have no influence on us.
Well, that doesn't seem to have anything to do with God.
I've observed that in general, the most dogmatically certain are religionists.
It appears to be an activity of the brain.
I think you're over abstracting it, as though "reason" was some sort of mysterious substance. Reason has to do...
I think the more you learn about the material universe, the less you see people as at the center of it. On the contrary, it appears we're one of millions of species who inhabit the skin of a subatomic particle off to the side of the universe.