For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. (Isa 9:6)
You are my witnesses, declares the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen, that...
Of course...
Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened. Or which one of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or...
Hello Falvlun,
I think I have been very plain about "what I am getting at." I would like to know the price that Allah requires for repentance.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. From your perspective, repenting with feelings of remorse and sincerity should be enough to satisfy God. It...
Good morning Blogger,
That indeed sounds like a very steep punishment for sin. Though the details you shared are somewhat more descriptive, it seems quite similar to the judgment and eternal torment that is found in the Bible.
However, I'm afraid that my question has remained unanswered...
Thank you for clarifying. I will try to address your question first.
Every sin has its own magnitude depending upon the sin itself and the context in which it was committed. There will come a day when each man will stand in judgment before God and by no means will all sins be treated equally...
In Christianity all sins are equal only in the sense that they separate us from God and make us unworthy of him. Beyond this, every sin has it's own level of magnitude and consequence. This is evident throughout the Bible and Jesus himself spoke of it often (Matt 23:13, Mark 12:40, Luke 20:47...
Hi Blogger,
Sorry it has taken me a couple days to get back to the board. This is a fascinating thread, however, and I thank you for bringing it up.
That said, I'm having difficulty understanding where you are coming from. You seem to have a problem with the concept of God forgiving sinners...
The value of faith depends on what type of faith we are talking about. Everyone has some sort of faith--many sorts, really. Even our resident atheists here have an abundance of faith. I would politely argue that they likely have far too much for their own good.
However, as it pertains to...
Hello Blogger,
God is forgiving because he personally pardoned and erased the sins of wretched men, leaving them blameless and making them perfect in Christ.
You ask how this compares to a god who does not ask for a price to be paid. Well, in that case man would have to repent perfectly on...
That was a very good post Heneni, thank you.
I don't believe that forgiveness can be separated from salvation. But forgiveness is for those in Christ alone.
This thread originally started with a question about "Christ dying for our sins". I felt the need to distinguish exactly who Christ...
Heneni,
I'm trying to understand your position better. It sounds almost as if you are saying that when Christ died on the cross he did not actually secure the salvation of anyone, but rather provided an opportunity for man to exercise faith and then be saved. Sorry if I've got you all mixed...
Fair enough my friend. I too believe that we should present the gospel to everyone without discrimination, just as we are commanded. And I would not recommend anyone getting "hung up" on election if it proves to be a distraction to their faith. However, it is a thoroughly Biblical doctrine...
Hello itwillend,
I agree with you partly. A self righteous attitude should be carefully guarded against in the Christian life. However, I'm not sure why you say we have to assume that Christ died for everyone since we don't find that the Bible teaches this in context.
Regarding the elect...
Hello Heneni! Pleased to *meet* you. Can you share where you have learned this from scripture?
Blessings...
P.S. I will have to catch up with you tomorrow on this as precious sleep is calling me at the moment.
I'm fairly surprised in reading through this thread that no one has brought up that Christ did not die for the sins of all humans. He died for the elect. This teaching is thoroughly present throughout scripture.
Not sure how much this makes the critics feel better but it is indeed what the...