@Subduction Zone we've been through the dates of Jesus birth before. This is not the thread for it. When I have more time, I'll go over it again for you and also the date of December 25.
You have your viewpoints and I checked out the use of the term ad hominem attack and it's a perfectly valid expression. A "common misconception is that an ad hominem attack is synonymous with an insult. This is not true, although some ad hominem arguments may be insulting by the person...
Here's a question for you -- oh never mind -- we're in a thread about whether Jesus died on a cross or an upright stake, and right now I'm not getting involved in that difference. But do you think he was even executed, however? by the Roman government?
If I had not studied the Bible I would also think it was a myth about Armageddon and understanding more about Babylon the Great. It's a detailed subject about Babylon the Great, but the song from Handel's Messiah comes to mind about the Day of God's Wrath, "who will abide" at the Lord's coming...
I conclude from the Bible that the Son was with the Father for eons before the earth came to be. And the Son (also known as the Word) learned everything he knew from his Father as a loving and devoted son would learn from his father. Although Jesus had much more time to observe the Father's...
I agree he was killed by the Roman state because of his views and teaching, yes. I'm not getting into the exact method of execution right now, but good for you that you believe he was executed. Even the conversation with Pilate before his execution is most interesting.
Since you do not consider the Bible a valid source, virtually nothing the Bible says is true, as far as you are concerned. And you're not alone in that. You have plenty of company. That is why God is God and we humans are not. Meantime, the two criminals next to Jesus were killed because their...
I saw to a degree that you acknowledged it. Good for that. I like to be specific. I won't go over it again right now. I believe that he warned the Jews to get out of Jerusalem when they saw certain things occurring. The temple is long destroyed and has not been rebuilt. There's more to be said...
I'm not sure which detail you are alluding to, but my point is not now about the method of Jesus execution, perhaps later for that -- but rather to correct what Subduction Zone said about his idea that the Bible wasn't truthful when it said he was executed next to two thieves. If you read the...
Unfortunately you are not an honest scholar because if you were, you'd at least stick to one subject at a time instead of rounding everything up after you make a mistake and say nothing can be trusted in the Bible. I will just say this--when the scriptures were put together (and I believe it was...
You need to look up the commentaries about the Greek terms and what the Romans thought. Yes, the Romans did not execute mere thieves like a shoplifter. But they did execute those who were like bandits and committed violent acts along with the thievery. Yes, punishment was used against those...
Yes I was. The fact is that the Greek word sometimes translated as thief has the possibility of connoting more than simple theft such as shoplifting. It was not for simple theft that a thief was put to death by the Romans. The word itself is indigenous to the Greek and Roman understanding.
To go over this again, the synagogue I was associated with was a 'reform' synagogue. I had a good friend who was an Orthodox Jew and their customs are quite different from those of the reform branch of Judaism.
I can't speak about premonitions, however I gave up searching at a certain point...
That's not true. What you said about the idea of being executed for thievery is inaccurate because the use of the Greek language in reference to Roman law has different aspects, but unfortunately you are, as usual, sadly unwilling to admit your error. And that's sad to me because it shows that...