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  1. amatuerscholar

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    Did you understand what I meant when I said metaphorical? I think you did. Why? Because even if the term wasn't fully correct, in context, it made sense. You're being overly pedantic right now and it adds nothing to this conversation. I explained why I used the term, you can either take it, or...
  2. amatuerscholar

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    I didn't say it was a metaphor or an allegory. I said it can be read more metaphorically. As opposed to literally. I could have been more specific, such as talking about how the story is mythological, but often using such terminology leads nowhere as there is a huge rift between the common...
  3. amatuerscholar

    Who Or What Is Christian?

    I'm in agreement with the Bible. It clearly states Jesus had wine at the last supper. That was part of the tradition of Passover, and the Greek here is clear. The fact is, Jesus was fine with wine, which is alcohol. quote] You have to know All About Yeshua/Jesus to be a Christian because a...
  4. amatuerscholar

    What is the Authority of the New Testament?

    First, inspired by God and authoritative aren't the same. So we have two questions here. The idea it is inspired by God is based on faith. As the question of God is a faith based question, anything being inspired by God is also faith based. Personally though, I think the idea that the Bible is...
  5. amatuerscholar

    The story of the Bible is a journey, from the garden, back to the garden, with a twist.

    I think it's a nice idea, but I don't think the text supports it. The Garden is mythological. It's a story invented in order to try to make sense of the world. It wasn't meant to be taken literally, and it's not something we can ever get back to, even if it existed. The end of the Bible, for...
  6. amatuerscholar

    Why do you believe Jesus is the Messiah?

    So, in other words, me continuing this will never lead to me learning anything as you have no argument for your case. You have no argument as to why Jesus is the Jewish Messiah even though he never fulfills the one prophecy that mattered. And somehow that's my fault? Let's just be real here...
  7. amatuerscholar

    Why do you believe Jesus is the Messiah?

    You didn't answer my questions. The verses you cited don't make an argument for why Jesus is the Messiah, even though he didn't fulfill the Messianic prophecy. It should be a simple question. If you can't answer it, I have no reason to assume that what you're saying is true..
  8. amatuerscholar

    Why do you believe Jesus is the Messiah?

    If you want me to learn something, demonstrate how Jesus was in fact the Jewish Messiah, even though he did not fulfill the major prophecy of freeing the Jewish people from subjugation. Even though he didn't usher in the Kingdom of God that was to replace the Kingdom of Earth. If you think I can...
  9. amatuerscholar

    Who Or What Is Christian?

    Wine is alcohol. Jesus also partakes in wine at the last supper. Wine, again, is alcohol. Being a Christian doesn't mean you know anything. And no, Jesus is never mentioned before Matthew. To see Jesus in the OT, you have to force him into it. I won't disrespect the Bible in that manner. So...
  10. amatuerscholar

    Why do you believe Jesus is the Messiah?

    Me pointing out that you started your post with multiple insults is not me insulting you. Me refusing to read rest of what you said is not an insult. It's me not wanting to read more of your insults. You're just parroting me here. I've offered rebuttals. You've come back simply saying Jesus is...
  11. amatuerscholar

    Who Or What Is Christian?

    Jesus produced alcohol. He did it so people could drink it and celebrate. In other words, he was fully okay with people drinking and getting at least a bit tipsy as they were celebrating. You can try to rationalize this in a different way, but the fact stands, Jesus turned water into alcohol so...
  12. amatuerscholar

    Why do you believe Jesus is the Messiah?

    Where have I insulted you? You've been needlessly aggressive while refusing to offer a real rebuttal. Is this forum just trying to show people why they should avoid Christianity?
  13. amatuerscholar

    Why do you believe Jesus is the Messiah?

    Try again. If you start your response with an insult, don't expect someone to read the rest of what you have to say. If you have a rebuttal, I'm happy to hear it and have a conversation with you. But you'll need to repost it without the judgement and negativity. If all you have is the latter...
  14. amatuerscholar

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    This isn't a conversation. It's you being absolutely condescending to everyone. It's you refusing to actually deal with anything anyone says, because, as you've shown, you think you know better than anyone else. That's the issue here. You're not willing to engage. You instead seem intent on...
  15. amatuerscholar

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    That is so very condescending. It's why so many people have issues with Christians.
  16. amatuerscholar

    Why do you believe Jesus is the Messiah?

    I don't think Jesus is the Jewish Messiah and stated very clearly why. You've given no actual rebuttal, and instead have been exceptionally judgmental, which both Jesus and Paul tells us is not our position. If you want me to reconsider my idea, offer a rebuttal. That's how debates work. And...
  17. amatuerscholar

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    If your position is, I only listen to Jesus when he speaks to me, and you simply dismiss everyone else, then you're not trying to find the truth. Because for you, you already have the truth. Meaning, the most likely explanation here, is that your intention is to preach to others and you're not...
  18. amatuerscholar

    Why do you believe Jesus is the Messiah?

    I think what it comes down to is that you can't actually form a real rebuttal, and instead have to say I'm the problem. I clearly separate when I'm talking about my opinion, and when I'm stating something is a fact. And yes, I'm denying Jesus is the Jewish Messiah because he didn't fulfill...
  19. amatuerscholar

    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    The verse you quoted is part of a larger message, called the Sermon on the mount. It's an entire sermon. Logic tells us that you don't simply take one verse out of a sermon, and act like it stands alone. That's a basic concept. To deny that means we have absolutely no place to go with a...
  20. amatuerscholar

    Evidence That the Absence of a God is Not Possible

    If we were to discover some supreme being out there, labeling it God would still be a statement of faith. Why? Because God is a theological idea. It takes on theological implications. Finding a supreme being only suggests that such a being exists that has the potential to do the things God is...
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