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  1. VoidoftheSun

    Islamaphobia - Years later, I accept its a real/true phenomena and an industry

    That is the fault of governments with their own agendas like you. You're talking politics, not religion. Apostasy and Islam It remains totally incoherent the concept of apostasy, especially to the Islamic mindset, when the Qur'an makes it pretty clear again and again that the faith is not...
  2. VoidoftheSun

    Islamaphobia - Years later, I accept its a real/true phenomena and an industry

    Take it at face value and then you have no Qur'an, period. You've mutilated the Qur'an to your own ends, you've become a fundamentalist ignorant of hermeneutics. Violent heresies never come out of point 2, they always, ALWAYS come out of point 1, the very one you favor - and no wonder why...
  3. VoidoftheSun

    Proof of Islam?

    Load of nonsense. Hadith are genre of historical literature, sayings with chains of transmission. You have no idea what you're talking about if you think that all Hadith are "authenticated as true and credible", that is completely false. Large chunks of Hadith from most collections are...
  4. VoidoftheSun

    Proof of Islam?

    You're not saying anything here. Which Muslims? where? what types? when? Just like in Christianity you believe Jesus is sinless, in Islam we believe all Prophets are sinless and infallible, not just Jesus. God wouldn't send prophets that weren't. This is creed. No, that is your belief, not...
  5. VoidoftheSun

    Is this blasphemy?

    What in the world?
  6. VoidoftheSun

    Islamaphobia - Years later, I accept its a real/true phenomena and an industry

    Check these out: Report: Islamophobia is a multimillion-dollar industry https://www.amazon.com/Islamophobia-Industry-Right-Manufactures-Muslims/dp/0745332536 https://www.amazon.com/Suitable-Enemy-Racism-Migration-Islamophobia/dp/0745327923...
  7. VoidoftheSun

    Islamaphobia - Years later, I accept its a real/true phenomena and an industry

    تِلكَ الدّارُ الآخِرَةُ نَجعَلُها لِلَّذينَ لا يُريدونَ عُلُوًّا فِي الأَرضِ وَلا فَسادًا ۚ وَالعاقِبَةُ لِلمُتَّقينَ This is the abode of the Hereafter which We shall grant to those who do not desire to domineer in the earth nor to cause corruption, and the outcome will be in favour of the...
  8. VoidoftheSun

    Islamaphobia - Years later, I accept its a real/true phenomena and an industry

    Lol this is so stupid. Have you never heard of converts before? Subjective opinion. Load of nonsense.
  9. VoidoftheSun

    Islamaphobia - Years later, I accept its a real/true phenomena and an industry

    Trust me, we're not ashamed of the Qur'an at all, we have proper hermeneutics while you cherrypick whatever suits your agenda. We live by the scripture, we study it thoroughly. Nothing you've said in this and other threads on the subject holds any water, it's just shallow nonsense. You people...
  10. VoidoftheSun

    Early Christians Rejected the Trinity

    The outline is the Old Testament. Only Marcionites and similar types of groups have a qualm with that.
  11. VoidoftheSun

    Early Christians Rejected the Trinity

    Yes, I already know what you're saying.
  12. VoidoftheSun

    Early Christians Rejected the Trinity

    You've lost the plot if you think that the definition of the Trinity is merely simply mentioning "the father, son and holy spirit" (which are mentioned in various forms throughout the NT, nobody debates that). That literally cancels out none of the heresies, to which the Trinity is formulated to...
  13. VoidoftheSun

    Early Christians Rejected the Trinity

    The difference is they believe in God BUT associate things with God that aren't God. That is the Islamic subtlety. On the Christian end, other Christians who reject the trinity are often considered total disbelievers in even God (atheists), which is a stark contrast, and they also have a strong...
  14. VoidoftheSun

    Early Christians Rejected the Trinity

    You have no idea what the trinity is if you believe those people believed in it
  15. VoidoftheSun

    What distinguishes God from Russell's Teapot?

    My problem with the unmoved mover argument is that it takes a linear view of time, which (according to most religions AND to science as well) is illusory in nature and in fact not linear, despite perceiving it day-to-day as such. No sane Abrahamic or Dharmic would use that argument, but many...
  16. VoidoftheSun

    What distinguishes God from Russell's Teapot?

    Russell's Teapot is an idea, but not a reality capable of experience. God is at root an ontological concept, not a concept of thought though, but of the quality of existence itself; the very ground of reality itself. If God was merely a belief of the mind, then it would not be worth much. And...
  17. VoidoftheSun

    Be afraid...

    Damn right. Love Dune :cool:
  18. VoidoftheSun

    Judgement day

    Judgement Day is both the present and death itself. Literally. From the second we're born we're in Judgement Day.
  19. VoidoftheSun

    Proof of Islam?

    And they'll have no actual answer for that.
  20. VoidoftheSun

    Proof of Islam?

    You do not speak from good-faith, you speak from ignorance. The entire history of Islamic theology, hermenuetics, philosophy etc strongly disagrees about your statement of no complexity, the opposite is true. God has no likeness, God is so different from everything that calling God a deity is...
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