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  1. VoidoftheSun

    Greatest verse in Quran

    Quite a useful post there, I agree with all you say there, you've also given me some interesting perspective to contemplate as well. I definitely agree about Surah Mulk in relation to Ayat al-Kursi, haven't throughout about them both in relation to each other in that manner before though but...
  2. VoidoftheSun

    Is god material?

    Yeah I agree with you there, they both have their space, their aims aren't the same. Both are inevitably spiritual concerns though (even if science as it currently is doesn't accept the concept of the spirit in religious terms, lol) Yes that is one thing he was referring to, though some forms...
  3. VoidoftheSun

    Mystical Hadiths

    Al Hassan Bin Muhammad Bin Saeed Al Hashimy Al Kufy narrated to us, from Furat Bin Ibrahim Al Kufy, from Al Hassan Bin Ali Bin Al Husayn Bin Muhammad, from Ibrahim Ibn Al Fazal Bin Ja’far Bin Ali Bin Ibrahim Bin suleyman Bin Abdullah Bin Al Abbas, from Al Hassan Bin Ali Bin Za’frany Al Basry...
  4. VoidoftheSun

    spin offs

    In the neighboring Canaanite and Babylonian pantheons yes, the Torah however is a different story because of how it recontextualizes these linguistic terms into new semantics (if looked at from a purely secular POV). What it really shows there is the way language evolved across various nations...
  5. VoidoftheSun

    Who Is Your Teacher?

    As for me too brother :cool: Underneath those towering figures I'd also put the best of the best of the great Saints and Philosophers of our tradition.
  6. VoidoftheSun

    Jesus in the Bahai & Christian faiths, reconciliation or conflict??

    Not exactly. In terms of a book that is solely God speaking, sure I agree. But really, the Qur'an (spell it correctly please) is akin to the Book of Deuteronomy (with a difference of speaker) and the speeches of Jesus in the four NT gospels. Like the Book of Deuteronomy it gives law and...
  7. VoidoftheSun

    Jesus in the Bahai & Christian faiths, reconciliation or conflict??

    I kind of agree with you here but not over where you're trying to pin the tail. The Qur'an shares a similar Mariology to the Gospel of Luke, similar points addressed in both. The real issue you have is with the relationship between Mary's womb and the Holy Spirit, and reconciling it with a...
  8. VoidoftheSun

    spin offs

    Which completely goes against Surah 2:256 and Surah 109, among many other things.
  9. VoidoftheSun

    Game: For Theists Only: Neti-Neti

    I don't believe in a form as the absolute
  10. VoidoftheSun

    Why must one know Arabic to know the Qur’an? Why is language that important?

    I was trying to convey something to him, an idea, about the way he was framing the original language of these scriptures, I wasn't assuming that he believed the Bible was written in english. That kind of delusion is only for KJV-only Evangelicals and Baptists who believe in conspiracy theories...
  11. VoidoftheSun

    What scriptures was Paul referring to in 1st Corinthians 15:3-4?

    You're being anachronistic and interpreting later Christian beliefs onto the passage which is rather straight-forward Isaiah poetry. It's very straight forward, verse 8 means "by the transgression of the people, the nation hinders itself from YHWH". Again, very consistent with Deuteronomy...
  12. VoidoftheSun

    Greatest verse in Quran

    In terms of Iman: Righteousness is not to turn your faces to the east or the west; rather, Righteousness is [personified by] those who have faith in God and the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets, and who give their wealth, for the love of Him, to relatives, orphans, the needy...
  13. VoidoftheSun

    The Baha'is

    Yes they do, they believe Jesus is part of the Trinity, that he is co-equal with God. They pray and worship his name and think it has power. Yes, and even the Qur'an says that. Jesus will tesify against those who worshiped him, he will serve as intercessor for those who followed what he taught...
  14. VoidoftheSun

    Can Something Be Divine Independently of a Deity?

    Yes but with different semantic distinctions between traditions.
  15. VoidoftheSun

    The Baha'is

    I don't think you do, Jesus added nothing to what was already in the Torah, he just conveyed what they were forgetting in their observance of the Torah.
  16. VoidoftheSun

    Why must one know Arabic to know the Qur’an? Why is language that important?

    I think that's a misfired arrow because of how you now assume that the Bible is in english (when it is only translated from it's original languages of Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek which are still essential to know, at least in compliment, to aid one's understanding of the actual socio-cultural...
  17. VoidoftheSun

    The Baha'is

    No, about you worshiping Jesus and opposing YHWH. Jesus was very clear in his biographies with what he commanded.
  18. VoidoftheSun

    The Baha'is

    So do you. Both of them, the Gospels and Islam. If you understood the Gospels you would not be a Christian, you would be a Jew.
  19. VoidoftheSun

    The Baha'is

    Baha'i is a religion you come to appreciate the more you understand underlying traits within the three previous Abrahamic religions that aren't necessarily as pronounced as other aspects. Namely though the directly consistent expansion narrative between Deuteronomy (the book of Moses), the four...
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