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It’s easy to say (sadly) because it is what you express in your presentations.
Here is one example of what you said:
- “The way I understand it, the author of Gospel of John would assert that Jesus is a higher source: direct, no interference, a perfect channel. Most prophecy in the OT is the holy spirit resting on them. That is not a perfect channel. The exceptions would be Moses and Bilam.”
OK, so, I'm talking about the OT, which is what you asked about. See below:
So if Jesus was THE WORD that God spoke… what was different about God speaking through Jesus (Old Testament to New Testament)?
Then I said: "Most prophecy in the OT is the holy spirit resting on them." So, when comparing OT to NT, I'm making a statement about the OT here.
The Holy Spirit (I say, ‘Spirit of God’, which is the correct description) ALSO RESTED ON JESUS:
- ‘And I did not know Him, but He who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘The One upon whom you see the Spirit descending and abiding on Him, this is the One who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ (John 1:33)
- “For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit.” (John 3:34)
OK. Thank you. You're answering with the NT description, not an OT description. And yes, I missed this detail where the spirit descended when Jesus was baptized.
So, the SOURCE of the word of God is FROM GOD, YHWH, the Father. Jesus is NOT, himself, the higher source. He himself says:
- “For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.” (John 12:49)
- “My teaching is not my own. It comes from the one who sent me.” (John 7:16)
Yes. If I made a mistake it's only by leaving off a few words in my statement, which I thought would have been understood based on my previous reply.
"the author of Gospel of John would assert that Jesus is a higher source: direct, no interference, a perfect channel of God's will."
Which is what I said in my previous reply.
"The word itself is a vessel, a vector, for divine influence which has no will of its own. It carries and expresses the divine will which is delivered to it."
- “For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.” (John 12:49)
- a direct, no interference, a perfect channel of God's will
- “My teaching is not my own. It comes from the one who sent me.” (John 7:16)
- direct, no interference, a perfect channel of God's will
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