'Making money' has nothing to do with whether something is an organisation or not. To be clear, this Royal Commission isn't putting Catholicism on trial. It is investigating coverups by certain sections of the Catholic Church in Australia, with some particular aspects of the Church being investigated more heavily, such as the Marist Brothers. These are registered organisations, with heirarchies, reporting responsibilities, and a duty of care to those whom they taught (in the case of schools), cared for (in the case of hospitals) and otherwise interacted with, just as any formal organization has.
It's nothing like this.
It's more like, you are giving out chocolate cupcakes. One of your friends thinks it's funny to take a dump in the cake batter. This is obviously not your fault, nor the fault of your small group/orgnization, although it's obviously a shame for the people eating the cupcakes. As a penalty, you send her to the next room....where she continues to make cupcakes, and hand them out to people. Whilst there is a chance she's still taking a dump in the batter, you figure she should get a second chance. And maybe a third after that.
There is a point, then, where your group becomes liable for the actions of the group member, since you covered up and otherwise facilitated continued inappropriate action.
And if the thought of eating a cupcake made from poo is a little stomach-turning, I apologise for the image. Of course, it pales into insignificance compared to what ACTUALLY happened.
'The church is not about coverups...'
Once again, I need to ask someone whether they have reviewed any of the evidence provided to the Royal Commission. This isn't (only) about rogue priests, but the actions of the church heirarchy in dealing with the members of the organization when they committed acts of pedophilia, and the impact this had on future victims.
I base my definition of the church on how the church handled incidences of pedophilia and harming of children under it's care. In particular, I look at how the leaders of the church led. If it helps, I don't blame God, nor do I blame Catholics.
I get most of what you said. With the cupcakes (since I can picture it
in metaphor)
And if the thought of eating a cupcake made from poo is a little stomach-turning, I apologies for the image. Of course, it pales into insignificance compared to what ACTUALLY happened.
Why would anyone, if I'm getting you right, think the Church (thinking of religiously) would use the same "batter"? I know when I looked it up, the individual parishes where still sending the same priests out to continue their vocation. Do people think that just because one priest commits a crime they will automatically do it again? There is a lot of bias.
From a religious perspective, if I were a priest and was convicted of child abuse, I "did my time" (as per law) and afterwards, I was able to go back to my vocation
is no different than a person who isn't religious, commit the same crime, did his time, and made up for what he lost to go back to work and lead a regular life without committing crimes.
It's like blaming the US government for people's individual crimes. While people like to blame the government (the authority. the church. god. -someone always bigger then themselves-) all they want, but all balls down to individual responsibility and consequences. Since it's religious in nature, just as a man convicted of felony come from jail, spend time shaping his life up, and going back to lead a life, why would we think a priest can't do the same?
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I was reading more on the accusations and it bothers me a lot when the Church (the people) and the priests are accused as a whole. I mean, I meet some nice priest (just go with it) nice priests that help me a lot and I know those who come from seminary must be hurtin' up a storm to be lumped in with other priests who have sinned.
I also read it balls down the individual parishes. For example, here in the States specifically Virginia, priests can't just "go into being a priest" because of all this mess, they go through long background checks. Where I live, which is a Catholic owned apartment complex, if you killed someone and the charged dropped of your record in X amount of years you can live here. If you committed any time of sexual abuse, you cannot live here. No exclusions.
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Another less extreme example is during communion everyone drinks from the same cup as everyone else. Many people have sinned in the Church and we don't know what sins they committed; yet, they all trust each other in communion "as sinners" to drink from one cup. It's beautiful, actually.
If priests who committed child molestation actually changed their lives and were "put back on duty", like drinking from the same cup, if a Catholic trusts god, why would he or she prevent their child from seeing that priest compared to another?
Sorry, I can't blame the Church or organization of people for some people's sins but not blame them for other sins. How I hear it, it makes you all make the Church as if it were the Mafia.
Edit: ... as if it were the Mafia.... I know. I know. Just get my point please.