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1 in 14 priests accused of abuse

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
This is a typical liberal talking point burned into the feeble brains of liberals who grasp at any negative news against the church. Don't get me wrong, I'm for getting rid of the bad priests and the church has to take legal responsibility. Too often it gets buried unless the victims sue. What's the answer? More women priests? Priesthood should not be equated with homosexuality? Allow priests to marry in those churches that forbid it?

Pederasty should be equated with the gay population and atheists, but this gets buried by the liberal media. No, gays are not attracted to children! This is liberal BS. It could be an even higher population than the percentage of priests. Not only pederasty, but child porn and child prostitution should be equated to atheists. All covered up by the liberal media. What do we do about them? Sue them? Lock them up? Castration? I mean the liberal media ha ha.

Twisted: Administration's 'safe schools czar' and the North American Man-Boy Love Association

The mind of a pederast

http://www.mega.nu/ampp/baldwin_pedophilia_homosexuality.pdf

Even liberal economics is based on a pedophile:

Keynes's "Jew Boy" Quickie

That is a sad little world you live in.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
So you agree that we should blame homosexuality. Let's see if these 1880 are all homosexuals and that they were homosexuals before they became Catholic priests. Then we can start blaming the homosexuals again. Let them catch all the disgusting diseases and end up in hell. I want to see that printed by Sulzberger or else he should feel the burn of the laser on his appendage being castrated lengthwise in my Goldfinger video. Thanks for riling me up against Sulzberger and the liberal media :angry: lewisnotmiller.

Man, your thought process is all messed up.

Here is some education for you, although I doubt someone like you will be able to actually process it.

In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and scoutmasters. More recently, in the wake of Rep. Mark Foley's resignation from the US House of Representatives in 2006, antigay activists and their supporters seized on the scandal to revive this canard.

It has also been raised in connection with scandals about the Catholic church's attempts to cover up the abuse of young males by priests. Indeed, the Vatican's early response to the 2002 revelations of widespread Church cover-ups of sexual abuse by priests was to declare that gay men should not be ordained.

To even call a pedophile gay or straight is incorrect in and of itself. They don't necessarily have a sexual orientation towards same sex or opposite sex adults.

The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

This might interest you as well:

Dr. Carole Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in fewer than 1% of cases in which an adult molester could be identified – only 2 of the 269 cases (Jenny et al., 1994).

Only 2 of the 269 cases....

and the Conclusion:

The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.

I doubt this will get through to you, but at least it is here for others to read. However, you should read the article, as clearly you are the one most in need of the facts.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
Homosexuality which is normal has nothing to do with sexual abuse, heterosexuals commit these terrible acts too.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
'Making money' has nothing to do with whether something is an organisation or not. To be clear, this Royal Commission isn't putting Catholicism on trial. It is investigating coverups by certain sections of the Catholic Church in Australia, with some particular aspects of the Church being investigated more heavily, such as the Marist Brothers. These are registered organisations, with heirarchies, reporting responsibilities, and a duty of care to those whom they taught (in the case of schools), cared for (in the case of hospitals) and otherwise interacted with, just as any formal organization has.




It's nothing like this.
It's more like, you are giving out chocolate cupcakes. One of your friends thinks it's funny to take a dump in the cake batter. This is obviously not your fault, nor the fault of your small group/orgnization, although it's obviously a shame for the people eating the cupcakes. As a penalty, you send her to the next room....where she continues to make cupcakes, and hand them out to people. Whilst there is a chance she's still taking a dump in the batter, you figure she should get a second chance. And maybe a third after that.

There is a point, then, where your group becomes liable for the actions of the group member, since you covered up and otherwise facilitated continued inappropriate action.

And if the thought of eating a cupcake made from poo is a little stomach-turning, I apologise for the image. Of course, it pales into insignificance compared to what ACTUALLY happened.



'The church is not about coverups...'

Once again, I need to ask someone whether they have reviewed any of the evidence provided to the Royal Commission. This isn't (only) about rogue priests, but the actions of the church heirarchy in dealing with the members of the organization when they committed acts of pedophilia, and the impact this had on future victims.



I base my definition of the church on how the church handled incidences of pedophilia and harming of children under it's care. In particular, I look at how the leaders of the church led. If it helps, I don't blame God, nor do I blame Catholics.

I get most of what you said. With the cupcakes (since I can picture it :confused: in metaphor)
And if the thought of eating a cupcake made from poo is a little stomach-turning, I apologies for the image. Of course, it pales into insignificance compared to what ACTUALLY happened.

Why would anyone, if I'm getting you right, think the Church (thinking of religiously) would use the same "batter"? I know when I looked it up, the individual parishes where still sending the same priests out to continue their vocation. Do people think that just because one priest commits a crime they will automatically do it again? There is a lot of bias.

From a religious perspective, if I were a priest and was convicted of child abuse, I "did my time" (as per law) and afterwards, I was able to go back to my vocation is no different than a person who isn't religious, commit the same crime, did his time, and made up for what he lost to go back to work and lead a regular life without committing crimes.

It's like blaming the US government for people's individual crimes. While people like to blame the government (the authority. the church. god. -someone always bigger then themselves-) all they want, but all balls down to individual responsibility and consequences. Since it's religious in nature, just as a man convicted of felony come from jail, spend time shaping his life up, and going back to lead a life, why would we think a priest can't do the same?

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I was reading more on the accusations and it bothers me a lot when the Church (the people) and the priests are accused as a whole. I mean, I meet some nice priest (just go with it) nice priests that help me a lot and I know those who come from seminary must be hurtin' up a storm to be lumped in with other priests who have sinned.

I also read it balls down the individual parishes. For example, here in the States specifically Virginia, priests can't just "go into being a priest" because of all this mess, they go through long background checks. Where I live, which is a Catholic owned apartment complex, if you killed someone and the charged dropped of your record in X amount of years you can live here. If you committed any time of sexual abuse, you cannot live here. No exclusions.

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Another less extreme example is during communion everyone drinks from the same cup as everyone else. Many people have sinned in the Church and we don't know what sins they committed; yet, they all trust each other in communion "as sinners" to drink from one cup. It's beautiful, actually.

If priests who committed child molestation actually changed their lives and were "put back on duty", like drinking from the same cup, if a Catholic trusts god, why would he or she prevent their child from seeing that priest compared to another?

Sorry, I can't blame the Church or organization of people for some people's sins but not blame them for other sins. How I hear it, it makes you all make the Church as if it were the Mafia.

Edit: ... as if it were the Mafia.... I know. I know. Just get my point please.
 

james bond

Well-Known Member
Man, your thought process is all messed up.

Here is some education for you, although I doubt someone like you will be able to actually process it.





To even call a pedophile gay or straight is incorrect in and of itself. They don't necessarily have a sexual orientation towards same sex or opposite sex adults.



This might interest you as well:



Only 2 of the 269 cases....

and the Conclusion:



I doubt this will get through to you, but at least it is here for others to read. However, you should read the article, as clearly you are the one most in need of the facts.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

I do not think you read what I wrote in my trying to educate liberals. Do you believe that priests just because they're priests are the cause? THIS IS THE FARKING HYPOCRISY OF THE LIBERAL LEFT AND SULZBERGER AND THE NEW YORK TIMES AND THE ASSOCIATED PRESS THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THIS IS THE FARKING HYPOCRISY OF THE LIBERAL LEFT AND SULZBERGER AND THE NEW YORK TIMES AND THE ASSOCIATED PRESS THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THIS IS THE FARKING HYPOCRISY OF THE LIBERAL LEFT AND SULZBERGER AND THE NEW YORK TIMES AND THE ASSOCIATED PRESS THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
I do not think you read what I wrote in my trying to educate liberals. Do you believe that priests just because they're priests are the cause? THIS IS THE FARKING HYPOCRISY OF THE LIBERAL LEFT AND SULZBERGER AND THE NEW YORK TIMES AND THE ASSOCIATED PRESS THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THIS IS THE FARKING HYPOCRISY OF THE LIBERAL LEFT AND SULZBERGER AND THE NEW YORK TIMES AND THE ASSOCIATED PRESS THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THIS IS THE FARKING HYPOCRISY OF THE LIBERAL LEFT AND SULZBERGER AND THE NEW YORK TIMES AND THE ASSOCIATED PRESS THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get a grip.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Are you incapable of a simple and direct conversation?
If it helps, I DONT care if a pedophile is straight or homosexual. I DONT care if a consenting adult is straight or gay.

I ABSOLUTELY care about people in power using that power to procure sexual favours, and even moreso I care about non-consensual sexual acts. The systemic covering up of admitted offences seems like the key issue in all this.

Why you want to downplay, prevaricate or otherwise muddy the waters on this is beyond me.

So he can liberally blame the liberal gays and the liberal media for liberals liberalling liberally..
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
This is a typical liberal talking point burned into the feeble brains of liberals who grasp at any negative news against the church. Don't get me wrong, I'm for getting rid of the bad priests and the church has to take legal responsibility. Too often it gets buried unless the victims sue. What's the answer? More women priests? Priesthood should not be equated with homosexuality? Allow priests to marry in those churches that forbid it?

Pederasty should be equated with the gay population and atheists, but this gets buried by the liberal media. No, gays are not attracted to children! This is liberal BS. It could be an even higher population than the percentage of priests. Not only pederasty, but child porn and child prostitution should be equated to atheists. All covered up...

You do realize it has absolutely nothing to do with anything being "covered up" as much as it does such morally reprehensible activity being present in the priesthood being a WAY more sensational topic, right? No one is "working against" , you, trying to defame religion... all they are doing is trying to turn heads. And someone we're informed should be trustworthy so aggregiously breaking that trust - and who is supposedly influenced, or even representative of God - is far more controversial than a laymen of any sort having been exposed. There is no conspiracy here. Just huge amounts of hypocrisy that makes good news.
 
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james bond

Well-Known Member
You do realize it has absolutely nothing to do with anything being "covered up" as much as it does such morally reprehensible activity being present in the priesthood being a WAY more sensational topic, right? No one is "working against" , you, trying to defame religion... all they are doing is trying to turn heads. And someone we're informed should be trustworthy so aggregiously breaking that trust - and who is supposedly influenced, or even representative of God - is far more controversial than a laymen of any sort having been exposed. There is no conspiracy here. Just huge amounts of hypocrisy that makes good news.

Sure, isn't it the same with anyone else that a group wants to target such as homosexuals? My criticism is towards the hypocrisy of the liberal media which I believe control the liberal mantra and that is to defame religion. This is done to propagate their liberal politics such as atheism which is politically based. I've already posted George Carlin's video to warn liberals of this. A liberal warning liberals.
 

McBell

Unbound
Sure, isn't it the same with anyone else that a group wants to target such as homosexuals? My criticism is towards the hypocrisy of the liberal media which I believe control the liberal mantra and that is to defame religion. This is done to propagate their liberal politics such as atheism which is politically based. I've already posted George Carlin's video to warn liberals of this. A liberal warning liberals.
So it is your claim that liberals got positions as priests in the Catholic hierarchy in order to defame religion?

And you think that atheism is politically based?
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Sure, isn't it the same with anyone else that a group wants to target such as homosexuals? My criticism is towards the hypocrisy of the liberal media which I believe control the liberal mantra and that is to defame religion. This is done to propagate their liberal politics such as atheism which is politically based. I've already posted George Carlin's video to warn liberals of this. A liberal warning liberals.

So if your assertion were coherent, wouldn't there be a difference in how this is being reported in Australia between right and left influenced media? Or is Rupert Murdoch a big old cuddly liberal these days in your opinion?
 

james bond

Well-Known Member
So it is your claim that liberals got positions as priests in the Catholic hierarchy in order to defame religion?

And you think that atheism is politically based?

That's your claim, so you need to be able to prove it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Atheism leads to Communism.
 

james bond

Well-Known Member
So if your assertion were coherent, wouldn't there be a difference in how this is being reported in Australia between right and left influenced media? Or is Rupert Murdoch a big old cuddly liberal these days in your opinion?

Does the Sydney Morning Herald and Daily Telegraph tickle your fancy? It's a bit strange to Americans, but the conservatives are the Liberal Party of Australia (as in freedom I suppose or maybe it's because they're down under). Liberal party means
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here, so that's why it's strange when they call themselves that over there.
 
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