12 Ways to Spot a Misogynist

[Shadow Wolf]

Do you disagree that if all it took to get men to be so concerned about their bodies was to simply advertise to them (without regard to the prevailing culture) that cosmetic companies, weight loss companies etc. would be bombarding men with the same ideals of bodily perfection in order to sell more?

I don't understand the question. My position is that advertising shapes cultures, that it does make men concerned about appearances and their body, but not quite so much in the fashion area as with women. This does happen, and we have watched it happen as non-Western cultures become Westernized. It's far worse with women, but the problem definitely effects men in unhealthy ways, and to dismiss it is along the same lines as dismissing the idea that a man can be raped by a woman.

 

[Thanda]

I don't understand the question. My position is that advertising shapes cultures, that it does make men concerned about appearances and their body, but not quite so much in the fashion area as with women. This does happen, and we have watched it happen as non-Western cultures become Westernized. It's far worse with women, but the problem definitely effects men in unhealthy ways, and to dismiss it is along the same lines as dismissing the idea that a man can be raped by a woman.

I'm dismissing nothing. I am simply stating that the fact that, as you admit, it is worse for women is not because advertisers target women more - but rather advertisers target women more in the fashion arena because women have an innate weakness (if that's the correct word) in that area. If advertisers believed men we as susceptible as women in the same area they would focus just as much in that area with them as they did with women.

I'm not sure how this conversation is related to rape.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't understand the question. My position is that advertising shapes cultures, that it does make men concerned about appearances and their body, but not quite so much in the fashion area as with women. This does happen, and we have watched it happen as non-Western cultures become Westernized. It's far worse with women, but the problem definitely effects men in unhealthy ways, and to dismiss it is along the same lines as dismissing the idea that a man can be raped by a woman.

I'd add that while advertising shapes buying habits, the latter also shapes the former.
We may control (to some extent) that which we choose to control.
In my own small way, I disincentivize advertising....
- Suits
- Hair gels, colorings, shampoos & conditioners.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I'm not sure how this conversation is related to rape.

Every conversation is ultimately about rape.

Hey, I'm a modern, SJW, feminist!

 

[Digital_Monk]

It's extremely easy for me to spot a misogynist. I go look in a mirror - bingo, I just spotted a misogynist.

 

[Revoltingest]