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150 rockets fired at Israel after IDF assassinates Gaza terror leader

rosends

Well-Known Member
Yet they are fair and honest and unlike UN watch, they use reputable sources

And i can assume you have researched the bona fides of UN watch?

P.s. there are several other, indipendent sources that criticise UN watch for their biassed content
1. They don't use any sources. They look at the sources used by others and decide whether they think that those sources are fair, biased or whatever they think.
2. Yes. Go compare the CV of the head of UN Watch and of the site you referenced. Look at degrees (grad and undergrad) and look for relevant job experience.
3. Yup, and plenty which praise it. So?
 

Shad

Veteran Member
you didn't answer the question, you seem to support Apartheid in Israel.

You claiming Apartheid is not evidence of it. Yawn.

Your question didn't deserve a response as you are deflecting to another issue as you lack evidence for your grand claims in this specific topic. It is a red herring. Try again.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
The Palestinians just want their land back, if it was Ukrainians that took there land they'd want to defeat the Ukrainians

This is why peace will not happen. They lost multiple wars. They are not going to get what they want. Beggars and losers are not the one's in a position to make demands.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
One thing for sure, it seems far right wing political views seem to go hand in hand with supporting Israel, and Islamophobia in general.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
One thing for sure, it seems far right wing political views seem to go hand in hand with supporting Israel, and Islamophobia in general.
One thing for sure, it seems that when you are shown to be incorrect, you change what you want to talk about.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
1. They don't use any sources. They look at the sources used by others and decide whether they think that those sources are fair, biased or whatever they think.
2. Yes. Go compare the CV of the head of UN Watch and of the site you referenced. Look at degrees (grad and undergrad) and look for relevant job experience.
3. Yup, and plenty which praise it. So?

Emm, i suggest you look up the definition of sources

Well you obviously have not researched the site.

Yes UN watch

In 2001, UN Watch had become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Jewish Committee. According to a press release at the time, “UN Watch was established with the generous assistance of Edgar Bronfman, President of the World Jewish Congress.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Emm, i suggest you look up the definition of sources

Well you obviously have not researched the site.

Yes UN watch

In 2001, UN Watch had become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Jewish Committee. According to a press release at the time, “UN Watch was established with the generous assistance of Edgar Bronfman, President of the World Jewish Congress.
How does being "owned" by anything change a single point that was made? And I take it you haven't checked any of the CV's because you are dancing away and trying to shift focus.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Wile these people whine, innocent civilians are killed in Gaza, not one single Israeli death, two whole innocent families dead because of Israeli aggression.

Irrelevant. Hamas' has inferior technology compared to Israel. That is the only reason the death tolls are not close.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Irrelevant. Hamas' has inferior technology compared to Israel. That is the only reason the death tolls are not close.

Yes I can see why you would think dead Palestinian civilians are irrelevant, but to many of us, that's a tragedy
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
While these people whine, innocent civilians are killed in Gaza, not one single Israeli death, two whole innocent families dead because of Israeli aggression.

IMO, everytime Hamas or Islamic Jihad does a terrorist act, Israel should just take so many more miles of land, rather than returning fire.

...Eventually, the problem will be solved.

...Slowly, but surely.
 
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Shad

Veteran Member
Yes I can see why you would think dead Palestinian civilians are irrelevant, but to many of us, that's a tragedy

The civilians can revolt and remove Hamas from power. Instead they elected them.

Pro-tip. Do not live next to terrorists. It does not reduce your life expectancy.

My point was if Hamas had better weapons technology the deaths tolls would be closer. Your point ignores that fact as you know little if anything of this conflict. You repeat propaganda, nothing more.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
IMO, everytime Hamas or Islamic Jihad does a terrorist act, Israel should just take so many more miles of land, rather than returning fire.

...Eventually, the problem will be solved.

...Slowly, but surely.


In fact, after all these years of constant terrorism, this is the only option.

I'd personally be willing to assist in accomplishing it in any way.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Yes I can see why you would think dead Palestinian civilians are irrelevant, but to many of us, that's a tragedy
But for some reason you think it's a result of Israel.
Instead of the Muslim leadership who will pay for missiles and name streets after suicide bombers.
Tom
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
How does being "owned" by anything change a single point that was made? And I take it you haven't checked any of the CV's because you are dancing away and trying to shift focus.

It messes up your point 2.

I am staying on focus, UN watch is a biassed sites and the ownership explains why. So why are you dancing? You introduced UN watch, and it is not worth ziltch for credibility, i guess that isn't what you wanted to hear
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
It messes up your point 2.

I am staying on focus, UN watch is a biassed sites and the ownership explains why. So why are you dancing? You introduced UN watch, and it is not worth ziltch for credibility, i guess that isn't what you wanted to hear
My point two was to ask you whether you had looked at the bona fides of the leaders of each group. Compare Hillel Neuer's law degree and experience in actual world court settings with Dave Van Zandt's experience and background. He has none. You want to ignore this and instead rely on the self proclaimed expert instead of the one who has actual experience and the endorsement of people like the secretary general of the UN. Then you want to muddy the water by referencing the umbrella organization even though the people in that organization are not the actual heads of UN Watch.

You are confused, wrong and pitiful. Fess up and see that UN Watch's credibility has been established and affirmed time and time again and the website you referenced is a volunteer LLC run by someone with an undergraduate degree in communications. It is criticized by the CJR, it called Xinhua least biased and it fails when its methodology is parsed. But hey, hitch your horse to a guy who works in health care in North Carolina instead of to an organization with a proven track record and the approbation of international leaders. Whatever works for you.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
When the Left cannot deal with the message, they have to attack the messenger.

It is a well-known tactic.

A well known tactic of the right, one you are guilty of on numerous occasions

However, when the messenger is owned and run by the people committing atrosities and griping when they are censured for it. Should it not be shown for what it is?
 
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