2070 Christs glorious return

[Kemosloby]

The prophecy of Kemosloby. This is a theory that Christ will return to resurrect the dead in 2070 or shortly afterwards. Here is the basis of the theory and scriptural support.

Jesus stood in the temple of the Jews in Jerusalem and stated "tear down this temple and in 3 days I will raise it up again" This statement had multiple meanings. The temple Jesus was standing in was a Temple of God, Jesus' body was a temple of God; And those who believe in Jesus are the body of Christ. Christs body was destroyed on the cross and in 3 days resurrected. He was resurrected early on the third day, already gone before anyone came to look the next morning. The temple of the Jews was destroyed in 70 ad by the Romans. This started the timer for the resurrection. Christ promised to return to resurrect his church, i.e. those who believe in him. "But do not let this one fact escape you, The Lord is not slow at keeping his promise, he is patient not wanting any to perish but all to come to repentance, therefore let 1 day be 1000 years. 2 Peter 3:9; Some simple math says the third day is 2070-3070, and Christ said " I will come quickly like a thief in the night" So very shortly after 2070, paralleling the resurrection of Christ. Gone before morning.

Romans 6:5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The prophecy of Kemosloby. After years of research I have a theory that Christ will return to resurrect the dead on that great day of the Lord in 2070 or shortly afterwards. Here is the basis of the theory and scriptural support.

Jesus stood in the temple of the Jews in Jerusalem and stated "tear down this temple and in 3 days I will raise it up again" This statement had multiple meanings which can be linked together. The temple Jesus was standing in was a Temple of God, It is an established metaphor that Jesus' body was a temple of God, and that those who believe in Jesus are his church which are metaphorically the body of Christ. Christs body was destroyed on the cross and in 3 days it was resurrected. It was resurrected early on the third day, like a thief in the night, gone before anyone came to look the next morning. The temple of the Jews was destroyed in 70 ad by the Romans. This started the timer for the resurrection and in three days Christs body, his church would be resurrected. " But do not let this one fact escape you, The Lord is not slow at keeping his promise, he is patient not wanting any to perish but all to come to repentence, therefore let 1 day be 1000 years. 2 Peter 3:9; So 2070 begins the third day, and Christ said " I will come quickly like a thief in the night" So very shortly after 2070, and why would Christ stay dead any longer than necessary to fulfill his own prophecy, so very very shortly after 2070 is my prediction

There’s been no shortage of people making such predictions for the past 2,000 years, and so far, every one, each and every single one, has failed. And then everybody (well, the ones who didn’t die) runs back to the drawing board and starts again. ‘Twas ever thus.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Doesn't it also say in the Bible somewhere that no man can know the appointed hour of Christ's return?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The single most important “indicator” in the Bible is Jesus Himself, saying, “some of you yet living” will be around when it comes. I can’t help but wonder who, from among those around Jesus at the time, is still living. We ought to track them, if we really want to know when it’s all gonna go kaboom!

 

[McBell]

Exactly, Just like nobody knows the hour when Christ was resurrected from the tomb, nobody knows the day of Christs return. But sometime soon after 2070

Is this a Biblical "soon" or a modern day "soon"?

 

[Kemosloby]

Doesn't it also say in the Bible somewhere that no man can know the appointed hour of Christ's return?

Exactly, Just like nobody knows the hour when Christ was resurrected from the tomb, nobody knows the day of Christs return. But sometime soon after 2070

 

[Kemosloby]

Is this a Biblical "soon" or a modern day "soon"?

If a day is 1000 years, the morning of the third day would be around 2570 years, but Christ was gone before the morning, and he said I will come quickly like a theif in the night, therefore closer to 2070 than 2570. Sooner than later

 

[Shad]

You have made God within time while God is timeless or you do not understand the verse at all.

 

[atpollard]

The single most important “indicator” in the Bible is Jesus Himself, saying, “some of you yet living” will be around when it comes. I can’t help but wonder who, from among those around Jesus at the time, is still living. We ought to track them, if we really want to know when it’s all gonna go kaboom!

Could you point to where Jesus said that, my word search found no exact match and I would like to see it in context.

Where does Jesus say "some of you yet living"?

 

[Kemosloby]

Could you point to where Jesus said that, my word search found no exact match and I would like to see it in context.

Where does Jesus say "some of you yet living"?

I know what he's thinking of Mark 9:1 And he said to them, "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power."

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Could you point to where Jesus said that, my word search found no exact match and I would like to see it in context.

Where does Jesus say "some of you yet living"?

My apologies for not doing proper quotes, but this is the text to which I referred -- and it says exactly what I suggested it says:

Mark 9:1 ESV

And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.”

 

[Kemosloby]

My apologies for not doing proper quotes, but this is the text to which I referred -- and it says exactly what I suggested it says:

Mark 9:1 ESV

And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.”

And the very next line of scripture Jesus takes some aside and shows them what he will look like at the second coming, "His clothes became dazzling white, whiter than anyone in the world could bleach them." Like Gandalf after he comes back from falling into the pit (I wonder where they got that idea from) But metaphorically Christs body is the kingdom of God, and those who believe are part of his body. Like Landrew on one of the Star Trek episodes or Negan on the Walking dead, except of course Jesus is the good guy, at least in some peoples eyes.

 

[atpollard]

My apologies for not doing proper quotes, but this is the text to which I referred -- and it says exactly what I suggested it says:
Mark 9:1 ESV And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.”

No apology necessary, my word search just failed me. I knew that there was a verse of something like that, but I remembered that the context was important.

Mark 8:34-38 Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 35 For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me and for the gospel will save it. 36 What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? 37 Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul? 38 If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.”
Mark 9:1-4 And he said to them, “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”
2 After six days Jesus took Peter, James and John with him and led them up a high mountain, where they were all alone. There he was transfigured before them. 3 His clothes became dazzling white, whiter than anyone in the world could bleach them. 4 And there appeared before them Elijah and Moses, who were talking with Jesus.

So some credit where credit is due, the verse immediately preceding Mark 9:1 does talk about the Son of Man returning in his Father's glory with the holy angels, which sounds a lot like the 'Last Days'. On the other hand, the very next paragraph after Mark 9:1 is Jesus standing before 'some who were standing there' transfigured, and chatting with Elijah and Moses, so a claim can be made that his prophecy was immediately fulfilled and recorded in the the next three verses.

It isn't really a smoking gun.

I would personally argue that 'the kingdom of God came with power' when Jesus ascended and sent the Holy Spirit to empower and indwell the believers creating the Church, His Body, on the Earth. Thus the promise was fulfilled twice.

Your Mileage May Vary.

 

[atpollard]

The prophecy of Kemosloby. This is a theory that Christ will return to resurrect the dead in 2070 or shortly afterwards. Here is the basis of the theory and scriptural support.

Jesus stood in the temple of the Jews in Jerusalem and stated "tear down this temple and in 3 days I will raise it up again"

Just accepting your logic at face value, isn't 2070 "in 2 days", so shouldn't your prediction be "soon after 3070"?

 

[Kemosloby]

No apology necessary, my word search just failed me. I knew that there was a verse of something like that, but I remembered that the context was important.

Mark 8:34-38 Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 35 For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me and for the gospel will save it. 36 What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? 37 Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul? 38 If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.”
Mark 9:1-4 And he said to them, “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”
2 After six days Jesus took Peter, James and John with him and led them up a high mountain, where they were all alone. There he was transfigured before them. 3 His clothes became dazzling white, whiter than anyone in the world could bleach them. 4 And there appeared before them Elijah and Moses, who were talking with Jesus.

So some credit where credit is due, the verse immediately preceding Mark 9:1 does talk about the Son of Man returning in his Father's glory with the holy angels, which sounds a lot like the 'Last Days'. On the other hand, the very next paragraph after Mark 9:1 is Jesus standing before 'some who were standing there' transfigured, and chatting with Elijah and Moses, so a claim can be made that his prophecy was immediately fulfilled and recorded in the the next three verses.

It isn't really a smoking gun.

I would personally argue that 'the kingdom of God came with power' when Jesus ascended and sent the Holy Spirit to empower and indwell the believers creating the Church, His Body, on the Earth. Thus the promise was fulfilled twice.

Your Mileage May Vary.

Except they were all still alive when he sent out the holy spirit. Only the transfiguration were just Some of them invited to.

 

[Kemosloby]

Just accepting your logic at face value, isn't 2070 "in 2 days", so shouldn't your prediction be "soon after 3070"?

No, because any part of a day is considered a day. Like Jesus was dead for three days, but was gone in the early part of the third day. So he was dead for two full days and only part of the third day. 2070 is two full days and 2070-3070 is the third day. But Jesus said "I will come quickly like a theif in the night", So quickly after 2070 Jesus will come, Nobody knows exactly when Jesus came out of the tomb and nobody knows when he is coming back, exactly. So it all sort of comes together perfectly, as you might expect God to do.

 

[atpollard]

Except they were all still alive when he sent out the holy spirit. Only the transfiguration were just Some of them invited to.

Judas was not. Some of the disciples (not apostles) may not. Mark 9:1 was addressed to the entire crowd of Mark 8 ... the "adulterous generation" some of whom may have died and most of whom did not receive the Holy Spirit.

 

[atpollard]

No, because any part of a day is considered a day. Like Jesus was dead for three days, but was gone in the early part of the third day. So he was dead for two full days and only part of the third day. 2070 is two full days and 2070-3070 is the third day. But Jesus said "I will come quickly like a thief in the night" So quickly after 2070 but nobody knows exactly when Jesus came out of the tomb and nobody knows when he is coming back, exactly. So it all sort of comes together perfectly, as you might expect God to do.

If I go to a Jewish tailor and drop my pants off to have the hem cuffed on Monday morning and he tells me he will need three days to finish the job. When I show up exactly 48.5 hours later to pick up my pants, he will tell me to come back tomorrow, when he said they will be done. The 'part day' argument really doesn't work. It has always been a bad attempt to cram a Good Friday and Easter Sunday into a pledge to be three days in the grave. There are more likely explanations. To then attempt to shoehorn that bad explanation into still other prophecies simply makes God bad at mathematics.

If he meant two days, he would have said two days. If he said three days, then he meant three days. Let's not try to twist God's words to fit our preconceptions.

 

[Kemosloby]

If I go to a Jewish tailor and drop my pants off to have the hem cuffed on Monday morning and he tells me he will need three days to finish the job. When I show up exactly 48.5 hours later to pick up my pants, he will tell me to come back tomorrow, when he said they will be done. The 'part day' argument really doesn't work. It has always been a bad attempt to cram a Good Friday and Easter Sunday into a pledge to be three days in the grave. There are more likely explanations. To then attempt to shoehorn that bad explanation into still other prophecies simply makes God bad at mathematics.

If he meant two days, he would have said two days. If he said three days, then he meant three days. Let's not try to twist God's words to fit our preconceptions.

Fortunately God made a pattern for us to follow, much as a tailor does. The pattern was Christs resurrection. Laid in the Tomb on a Thursday evening,( a day begins at sunset) Dead all of Friday, All of Saturday and Gone by Sunday morning. And fulfilling his prophecy that The Son of Man will be 3 days in the belly of the earth.

 

[PeteC-UK]

Hi Folks..

As always Christ Himself is the only one to trust..His original truth from Thomas :

"Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death." "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. And after they have reigned they will rest.", "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the Father's kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the Father's kingdom is within you and it is outside you. When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

His disciples said, "When will you appear to us, and when will we see you?" He said, "When you strip without being ashamed, and you take your clothes and put them under your feet like little children and dance upon them, then you will see the son of the living one and you will not be afraid."

They saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples, "These nursing babies are like those who enter the Father's kingdom." They said to him, "Then shall we enter the Father's kingdom as babies?"
He said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."

"The messengers and the prophets will come to you and give you what belongs to you. You, in turn, give them what you have, and say to yourselves, 'When will they come and take what belongs to them?'"

Now I bet you are REAL confused...lol...bare with me..

His disciples said to him, "When will the rest for the dead take place, and when will the new world come?"
He said to them, "What you are looking forward to has come, but you don't know it." His disciples said to him, "Twenty-four prophets have spoken in Israel, and they all spoke of you."
He said to them, "You have disregarded the living one who is always in your presence, and have spoken only of the dead."

Ok - so whats THAT all about..???...I tell you it is about revealing the CHRIST and how to attain it - This "second coming" - is a PERSONAL ENDEAVOUR - an INDIVIDUAL transformation that we each must now undertake FOR OUR SELF..

As always - it is about SELF AWARENESS - KNOWING THE SELF - fully and completely just as the first two quotes express - come to know the Self first NOT as a "mortal man" - but as an ETERNAL SOUL....Look clearly - He tells them the RELIGIOUS "truth" is WRONG - NOT TRUTH and that they are MISLED about this issue of WHO YOU ACTUALLY ARE and the ONLY way to discover it legitimately is to come to this complete state of SELF AWARENESS..Forget the religious version - He has warned us clearly they simply DO NOT KNOW TRUTH...

WHO you ACTUALLY ARE !!! NOT a "mortal man" but an eternal Soul !!! KNOW the Self FULLY He says - EXPERIENCE directly that which you ARE always... The quote He speaks of stripping without shame - casting clothes off and dancing on them as children do - He IS speaking about OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES - His is a metaphysical truth ALWAYS - and this is precisely and exactly the "second coming" and the WAY to attain it.. we MUST come to know the Self so intimately that we can literally STEP OUTSIDE OUR BODY and DISCARD IT !!!

I just vouch from direct experiences such things are valid, attainable, natural, just as He says.. If we want truth of Christ then understand fuly it is ONLY delivered to the mind that is FREE of the body entirely - inhabiting a NEW form - see the quote about nursing babies above - the TRUST that the baby exhibits is ESSENTIAL - it allows the truth to be known directly if you trust the SELF in that complete manner and attain that PEACE OF MIND that the nursing babe has , as He then explains..

When you make "two into one" - means the MIND Folks - the now broken mind - surface part here seems seperate and divided to "subconscious self" below yes..?...This divide must be first mended - I could show you more on this aspect - a lot more - but to keep it short (for me) lol i will just say meditation is the key - do this sufficiently He says and you WILL LEAVE THE BODY it is as simple and as straight forward as that...Inevitable..

When you make the INNER be like the OUTER and release your Soul - then the UPPER becomes also the LOWER as spiritual realms now co exist as ONE EXPERIENCE - you will no longer be human - not male nor female - but will have eyes in place of mortal eyes and hands in place of mortal hands etc etc - your SELF IMAGE is RECREATED in SPIRIT FORM for as said you are now having an OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCE - and it is in THIS STATE OF MIND that the KINGDOM is revealed and THROUGH this process we gain ACCESS TO the Kingdom itself.... When this is acheived then look -messengers and prophets -SPIRITUAL ENTITIES - come to give you the needed counsel..

WHEN WILL IT HAPPEN they desperately ask..??

It HAS HAPPENED ALREADY and you MISSED IT He replies !! I tell you (all) it happens EVERY TIME YOU SLEEP and rest deeply - your Soul DOES leave your body Folks and yet you remained fully ignorant of this fact as most do not know or understand the Self and our nature sufficiently enough (yet)..

But all the PREVIOUS prophets spoke of YOU the Christ they say - and He says - yer they did but YOU yourelves do not yet know your SELF - the LIVING ONE who is ALWAYS in your PRESENCE - and so their religious testimony is useless to you and merely a dead thing He warned..

All about coming to a state of SELF AWARENESS - a COMPLETE state of Self awareness - AS Christ - as the Father beyond, once free from the mortal realms after mortal death...Through THIS process alone the Christ is revealed - and it is ALWAYS an inner journey of Self discovery leading to a direct experience of the Divine..

"Whoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to him."

The second coming happens when we ourselves BECOME the Christ FOR our Self...As always - for those with ears to hear..