SoyLeche
meh...
No, but it's a pretty strong indicator.
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22 year old guy having sex with a 16 year old girl
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fullyveiled muslimah
Evil incarnate!
This is exactly what I think about when people bring up these ages like 16, 17 and whatnot. They usually have less of a problem with two teens having sex then they do with like a 20 year old having sex with like a 17 or 16 year old. I aks what the difference? Sex is sex isn't it? I mean both the other minor and the adult can get her pregnant, give her a disease, and manipulate her if she lets him. So I can't see the difference. Manipulation is often brought up as a key factor why people don't like it, but when I was in high school those girls were letting guys their age tell them the stupidest things just to get some, and it worked. So it all depends on the girl. Is she gullible? Do she believe everything some guy says that shows two seconds worth of interest in her? Or does she have a better head on her shoulders than that? These 16 year old girls aren't as stupid or naive as people like to think. For all we know she could having been makin the moves on him. It's very possible. I know at 16 I was a smooth operator, and more often than not I was the manipulator in the relationship. It was nothing for me to have an older guy chase me around without me letting him do anything to me.
If the guy ONLY goes for girls of that age, that might be more of an indicator of his lack of maturity than having some kind of problem. He might be kinda stupid and women his age won't deal with it, but a teenager will, cuz she's used to silly behaviour anyway. So I don't think it necessarily indicates he's some kind of pervert. It's not perverted for him to be turned on by her, and want her sexually. It's not like she's a baby.
Maybe....
Interesting question.
I think this just shows that people generally have less trust in a boy than a girl regarding relationships....
fullyveiled muslimah
Evil incarnate!
While I have no problem for the age, I do think we see less of this then the other way around because women tend to look for more than sex in a relationship. A real relationship and stability, maturity are all things women look for. A young man of that age cannot (usually) provide much of that if any of it. If an older woman singles out these young men of that age specifically, she probably really is manipulating him on some level. However there are always exceptions. If he is exceptionally hot and older looking, she might just be in it for the sex, who knows?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Well said.
That does make a big difference in this particular situation. If the guy is targeting teens, then it is a problem, but if it is an actual relationship, then I see no problems.
Mercy Not Sacrifice
Well-Known Member
It's hard to know what to make of this circumstance without knowing more of the details. I honestly can't tell whether the OP (welcome to RF, btw 
) is a case of warranted concern or a subconsious desire to keep the female sexual desire under control. The latter, frankly, really isn't any less scary than pedophilia itself, yet our patriarchal culture chooses not to discuss this problem much.
What's ironic about a scenario such as the OP describes is that whether the young man would be treated as a sexual predator or just a horny young man all depends on the inconsistent laws from state to state. It honestly might not be a bad idea to have a federal age of consent that overrides the inconsistent state laws, just so all fifty states can get on the same page (which is the entire idea of having a UNITED States).
) is a case of warranted concern or a subconsious desire to keep the female sexual desire under control. The latter, frankly, really isn't any less scary than pedophilia itself, yet our patriarchal culture chooses not to discuss this problem much.What's ironic about a scenario such as the OP describes is that whether the young man would be treated as a sexual predator or just a horny young man all depends on the inconsistent laws from state to state. It honestly might not be a bad idea to have a federal age of consent that overrides the inconsistent state laws, just so all fifty states can get on the same page (which is the entire idea of having a UNITED States).
fullyveiled muslimah
Evil incarnate!
And as a result of these inconsistancies, a young man who was 17 at the time, I think a couple years ago, was sentenced to 10 years in prison for having a 15 year old give him oral. She was consenting to this at a party where some other boys were also involved. It was brought to my attention recently because a judge looked to overturn that sentence and let him out, but the prosecuting lawyer made a motion to appeal it and have the young man serve the full sentence. To me that was absurd sentence in the first place. I wonder if that lawyer woud mind revealing the ages of girls he was having sexual encouters with when he was 17?
Smoke
Done here.
I think if I were a 16 year old straight boy, the only thing I'd like better than an experienced woman would be an experienced woman who could buy me beer.
Mike182
Flaming Queer
i voted not sure. the poll is asking if you have the right to be angry, and because i can't answer it for you, i had to vote "not sure".
me? i wouldn't be angry. any child of mine at 16 can do what they will, i was having sex at that age and i've been with people with a bigger age gap than 6 years. i would of course advise my child on ways to keep safe, but i would have no problems with it at all.
me? i wouldn't be angry. any child of mine at 16 can do what they will, i was having sex at that age and i've been with people with a bigger age gap than 6 years. i would of course advise my child on ways to keep safe, but i would have no problems with it at all.
Not only would I be angry, I might become homicidal. My daughter is turning 16 years old this month. While physically the couple might be compatible, mentally the 16 year old girl is at a disadvantage. Her boy friend can go to bars and buy liquor and cigarettes. While these are adult choices, they are absolutely inappropriate for a 16 year old.
Next is the sex issue. While a 16 year old girl can make choices for herself, she is more focused on the romantic side of relationships while most 22 year olds are interested in achieving another notch on their belts.
Yes, you can site plenty of exceptions and you would be 100% right. That changes little in my home. If my daughter was out with a 22 year old man, she would not be allowed out of the house till she was of legal age and she knows and understands this. I have incentives like a potential car, cellphone, internet, tanning booth, credit card, trips to the mall that keeps her focused on her grades and what is appropriate for her age.
On the other side, most 22 year old women do not date 22 year old men. It is very appropriate for a grown woman to be interested in men who are older. The key word here is grown. Not physically, but mentally. A woman in her mid twenties can make decisions about older men that a 16 year old is incapable of. I am speaking in generalities, so don't bring out the exception.
This is grossly unfair to young men. While women are dating older men and that leaves younger GIRLS, not WOMEN to date. 22 and 18, is a stretch but acceptable because there is a world of difference between a woman who is out of high school and a school girl who has two or three years left of childhood.
Next is the sex issue. While a 16 year old girl can make choices for herself, she is more focused on the romantic side of relationships while most 22 year olds are interested in achieving another notch on their belts.
Yes, you can site plenty of exceptions and you would be 100% right. That changes little in my home. If my daughter was out with a 22 year old man, she would not be allowed out of the house till she was of legal age and she knows and understands this. I have incentives like a potential car, cellphone, internet, tanning booth, credit card, trips to the mall that keeps her focused on her grades and what is appropriate for her age.
On the other side, most 22 year old women do not date 22 year old men. It is very appropriate for a grown woman to be interested in men who are older. The key word here is grown. Not physically, but mentally. A woman in her mid twenties can make decisions about older men that a 16 year old is incapable of. I am speaking in generalities, so don't bring out the exception.
This is grossly unfair to young men. While women are dating older men and that leaves younger GIRLS, not WOMEN to date. 22 and 18, is a stretch but acceptable because there is a world of difference between a woman who is out of high school and a school girl who has two or three years left of childhood.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It varies from state to state. Most states are set at 17 for the legal age of consent, some states are 16, and some are at 18.
Mercy Not Sacrifice
Well-Known Member
Oh god, that. The Genarlow Wilson Case.
What's absolutely terrifying about this case is not just the Dark-Age values by which his enemies are standing by, but the sheer militance of their stance.
nutshell
Well-Known Member
This is rape. Consent has NOTHING to do with it. You have a right to be angry and don't let anyone else convince you otherwise. A father has a special feeling to protect his daughter. You are in a better position to accomplish this than any other person in the universe (despite what some may and will say). Don't buy it!!!
I recall reading that a disproportionate number of teen pregnancies result from such relationships (i.e. relationships in which the male is in his early twenties and the female in her early to mid teens).
I would think a 22 year old male who wanted a 16 year old girl friend was either genuinely in love with her or -- more likely -- an at least somewhat dysfunctional young man unable to compete for a woman closer to his own age.
I would think a 22 year old male who wanted a 16 year old girl friend was either genuinely in love with her or -- more likely -- an at least somewhat dysfunctional young man unable to compete for a woman closer to his own age.
frg001
Complex bunch of atoms
It's entirely legal in most countries. So not 'statutory rape'
Certainly when I was 20/21/22 and socialising with mates, there were many girls of 16/17 and sometimes younger, pretending to be 18+, and getting away with it, being served drinks.
If a 16 year old looks old enough then she is... an 22 is still very young for a guy.
If you are the father of a 16 year old girl then you have to accept she has probably 'already' had sex...
As for marriage... dumb dumb dumb to get married so young.
nutshell
Well-Known Member
In the US (where I believe the majority of posters are), it is likely statutory rape.