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5 Lies You’ve Been Told About the US Legalizing Marijuana

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The reasons it was made illegal in the first place are highly specious. I believe it was the late 30s or early 40s(I could be wrong) when Reefer Madness, a "documentary" about the horrors of marijuana (so named to make it more Mexican/dangerous sounding;it's actual name is Cannabis.) was released.
Actually Wikipedia has a very informative article on: Legal history of cannabis in the United States - Wikipedia

(It debunks the oft-repeated story on the Hearst/DuPont wood pulp angle.)
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Because it isn't true.
I don't want to get high and I don't think other people should either. This is the voice of experience talking.

I nevertheless oppose stupid and destructive wars, such as The War on USA citizens Who Use Drugs. We could better fix the underlying problems if it weren't for the stupid war.
Tom
I agree with you save for the first paragraph. In a bit unconvinced as I still think it is all about getting high, but I'll leave you at your personal word though stating otherwise.

I can see health reasons as being valid as opposed to a desire for euphoria, but I don't see this as a primary driver in most of the discussions and debates I've come across.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I can see health reasons as being valid as opposed to a desire for euphoria, but I don't see this as a primary driver in most of the discussions and debates I've come across.
No one denies that recreational use is included among the reasons to legalize cannabis. To deny the other, and generally more beneficial, reasons for legalization is to be deluded. What was the "primary driver" for repealing prohibition?
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
In a bit unconvinced as I still think it is all about getting high, but I'll leave you at your personal word though stating otherwise.
It is not "all" about getting high.
It is for all too many, I will give you that. But not all.

I would, for instance, like it if a clear distinction was made between selling to and by underaged people. But you can't effectively do that when any sale is illegal.
I have an acquaintance who is a retired doctor. He has been waiting for 40+ years to be able to toke. Now, he doesn't even much care about the law because he can well afford top quality justice. He is rich and retired and best buds with a rich criminal lawyer.

He is also at little risk of mental or psychological damage. He is well into his 60s. That is completely different from a teenager who is less developed.
Tom
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No one denies that recreational use is included among the reasons to legalize cannabis. To deny the other, and generally more beneficial, reasons for legalization is to be deluded. What was the "primary driver" for repealing prohibition?
Easy. Too many people like to get drunk and will do just about anything to keep it that way. The mob was making more money than the Goverment.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I've noticed the pro marijuana camp has no problem lying about marijuana so they can get high more easily, for instance the oft quoted BS about no one has ever died from smoking marijuana, obviously people have been so high that they got involved in fatal traffic accidents just like alcohol, though arguably less so. The there are lies about medical uses for marijuana that are just an excuse to get high, not to downplay the real medical uses of marijuana, which are not as great as the stoners would like us to believe.
For someone as politically progressive as you, Lyndon, I am surprised you are taking this position. At any rate, the purpose of these arguments is not to say that marijuana cannot be used irresponsibly. It can, for sure. But the argument is there to illustrate that responsible use, like that of alcohol, can be enjoyable and poses little to no personal threat. In short, that it is demonized in lieu of alcohol for no significant reason.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
It is not "all" about getting high.
It is for all too many, I will give you that. But not all.
Why should that matter? If I want to smoke in the privacy of my own home and pay taxes on it, why shouldn't I be able to?
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I'm just as against alcohol, I think the solution is high taxation of both pot and alcohol, they're too cheap, Its too cheap to throw your life away, if you really had to pay for the substances you might think twice about throwing your life away and/or practice some moderation.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I'm just as against alcohol, I think the solution is high taxation of both pot and alcohol, they're too cheap, Its to cheap to throw your life away, if you really had to pay for the substances you might think twice about throwing your life away.
That's a misguided opinion. There are many successful individuals who partake in marijuana and you would never know otherwise.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I'm just as against alcohol, I think the solution is high taxation of both pot and alcohol, they're too cheap, Its to cheap to throw your life away, if you really had to pay for the substances you might think twice about throwing your life away.
What a Capitalist.
Let's make this all about money and let The Market work it's magic.
:rolleyes:
Tom
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Why don't people ever admit outright that they just want to get high outright instead of going through all this?

Planly put, "I want to be high".

Simple and short.

Like people who say, "I want to get drunk".

Would you support the prohibition of alcohol? Also, would you consider anyone who occasionally enjoys a beer or wine with their meal a raging drunk or alchie?
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I'm just as against alcohol, I think the solution is high taxation of both pot and alcohol, they're too cheap, Its too cheap to throw your life away, if you really had to pay for the substances you might think twice about throwing your life away and/or practice some moderation.

Think before you drink that soda. It contains caffeine. Don't throw your life away!
 
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