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9/11 conspiracy

Phasmid

Mr Invisible
A friend of mine went on about all this to me a while ago and I just called him a crackpot and told him that if there really were a conspiracy, they would likely have done a much better job of it... however, some of the evidence is quite compelling. If you have the time (or are bored as I was) here's a good documentry on it.

I'm not saying it's true that there was a cover up... I'm just saying there are a few questions, which should be answered.

YouTube - 911 Loose Change (full-length)

Thoughts?













*Awaits Republican flame attacks*
 

blackout

Violet.
*Awaits Republican flame attacks*

You'd better be a'waitin flame attacks from more than just Republicans honey.
(assume crash position, in heavy protective gear)

I think the film is excellent.
(the full version)
But who the hell am I to say. Right? :shrug:
(I'm just the ship wench after all...)

:beach: Much easier.

*UV exits before flames hit the thread...
 
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Phasmid

Mr Invisible
It's important that the truth be known. If the government has nothing to hide, it should be able to refute these claims... but it doesn't. And don't tell me that's because they're not worth refuting, they clearly are.
 

.lava

Veteran Member
hi Phasmid, i can't open you tube pages. is there any other channel to watch video? btw, some say 9/11 was done by mossad, there were people who knew it would happen, therefor there are no jewish victims of 9/11. i am not sure if this is true. but i wonder how many Jewish died there that day. such a tragedy, can't forget people jumping out falling down to death.



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Phasmid

Mr Invisible
hi Phasmid, i can't open you tube pages. is there any other channel to watch video? btw, some say 9/11 was done by mossad, there were people who knew it would happen, therefor there are no jewish victims of 9/11. i am not sure if this is true. but i wonder how many Jewish died there that day. such a tragedy, can't forget people jumping out falling down to death.



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I'm not sure, I think youtube is the only place the video is shown. The most compelling evidence in my mind was the way the towers fell so perfectly and how engineers involved in it's construction said a plane would not fell the buildings.
 

Mjolnir

Member
I'm not sure, I think youtube is the only place the video is shown. The most compelling evidence in my mind was the way the towers fell so perfectly and how engineers involved in it's construction said a plane would not fell the buildings.

I was just watching the part about all the skyscrapers burning for hours upon hours without falling. Then the steel being certified to burn at 2000-3000 F for several hours. Then it collapses in less than an hour? That is pretty compelling evidence, I don't know. I just would like the government to refute these claims. But, I do not think they can. It was an inside job, the facts are there.
 

Phasmid

Mr Invisible
I was just watching the part about all the skyscrapers burning for hours upon hours without falling. Then the steel being certified to burn at 2000-3000 F for several hours. Then it collapses in less than an hour? That is pretty compelling evidence, I don't know. I just would like the government to refute these claims. But, I do not think they can. It was an inside job, the facts are there.

It does look that way. But I'd have thought the government would have done a better job of covering it up... then again there are a lot of intelligent people out there and information is spread quickly.
 

Mjolnir

Member
It does look that way. But I'd have thought the government would have done a better job of covering it up... then again there are a lot of intelligent people out there and information is spread quickly.

Yeah, so would I. Maybe they thought we were all to dumb, I don't know. :confused:
 

rojse

RF Addict
I was just watching the part about all the skyscrapers burning for hours upon hours without falling. Then the steel being certified to burn at 2000-3000 F for several hours. Then it collapses in less than an hour? That is pretty compelling evidence, I don't know. I just would like the government to refute these claims. But, I do not think they can. It was an inside job, the facts are there.

Because a short documentary makes you an expert structural engineer.
 

Mjolnir

Member
Because a short documentary makes you an expert structural engineer.

I do not think I need to be an expert structural engineer to find out from an encyclopedia or a chemistry class for that matter, that the average melting point of structural steel is around 1510C (2750 F) while the temperature of burning jet fuel is around 2000 F. I think I even heard some so-called expert who was building the Towers say that they should not have collapsed the way they did.
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
Actually, there was an interesting documentary in the history channel (?) that refutes the conspiracies of 9/11. it addressed some of the more shameful remarks such as there were no Jewish victims in 9/11, remarks which should make any thinking person consider the mental stability of the person that makes them.
 

.lava

Veteran Member
Actually, there was an interesting documentary in the history channel (?) that refutes the conspiracies of 9/11. it addressed some of the more shameful remarks such as there were no Jewish victims in 9/11, remarks which should make any thinking person consider the mental stability of the person that makes them.

isn't it? no Jewish people in world trade center!! how come? if it was true, then that would be enough evidence since it involves 'trade'




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keith_Thornton

New Member
A friend of mine went on about all this to me a while ago and I just called him a crackpot and told him that if there really were a conspiracy, they would likely have done a much better job of it... however, some of the evidence is quite compelling. If you have the time (or are bored as I was) here's a good documentry on it.

I'm not saying it's true that there was a cover up... I'm just saying there are a few questions, which should be answered.

YouTube - 911 Loose Change (full-length)

Thoughts?

The 9/11 false flag covert operation was proven in 2004 by Michael C. Ruppert's book: Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil. 600 pages of meticulously researched documentation is probably not for you though, as your comments indicate that you only seek truth as an escape from boredom. While you and others are still raising pathetic "questions", true journalists like Ruppert have sacrificed their lives getting answers.
 

Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
Anyone who supports loose change and other conspiracy theories related to 9/11 are complete and total idiots.

Some of these idiots need to read history. More specifically, go read up on Nixon and the Watergate. If our government couldn't successfully break into a freaking hotel room to spy on a freaking nobody, what seriously makes people think the government could coordinate the entire 9/11 event and keep it quiet? Think of all the people that had to have been involved in all levels in the chain of command. Is everyone that cold heart-ed and unpatriotic?

Also, if the government was behind the 9/11 event, why wouldn't that same government just pop a cap and secretly kill those idiots who made loose change, and all the other conspiracy theorists in the first place? Is someone actually going to tell me that our government can facilitate 9/11, shut up the hundreds if not thousands of people involved, but couldn't stop a bunch of idiot losers from putting together a low budget documentary and starting up blogs that spreads like herpies?

Ignorance is bliss. Ignorance combined with internet, youtube, and people's need for the excitement of novels without the reading is loose change.

Some just can't accept that a bunch of people filled with pure hate and cunning took down something so massive with something so little. Face reality.
 
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Heneni

Miss Independent
Think of all the people that had to have been involved in all levels in the chain of command. Is everyone that cold heart-ed and unpatriotic?

Hundreds and thousands of people involved. Do you think that is how many it took for the terrorists as well?

Neo...if the goverment wanted to pull this off, they would hardly follow protocol and follow the chain of command to get it done.
 

Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
Hundreds and thousands of people involved. Do you think that is how many it took for the terrorists as well?

Neo...if the goverment wanted to pull this off, they would hardly follow protocol and follow the chain of command to get it done.

Not even arguing the specifics of the theories - which by the way no one one this board is qualified to make judgments on - such as structural deficiencies, etc - the face argument of this is still absurd.

C mon ... let's use common sense. Of course our government wouldn't be following protocol! This is illegal, if it was in fact, done by the government. But think of how much work it takes for the government to make this happen and blame it on the terrorists. Think of all the intel people, counter-intelligence, security, people from air force, intelligence community in general, members of Congress/senate/executive branch whose authorities are necessray to give certain authorizations, engineers, propagenda people, cover-up people, not to mention the tons of people that would be involved in logistics at the air ports, pentagon, etc.

No single person in government can do this alone. If done, it will be a collective effort - even if illegal, it will require a small army of people. And the government being as interconnected as it is, do you serious think that no one involved in the conspiracy would've called their friend, family, or loved ones to give a heads up if they were in or near twin towers/pentagon? All the people that had to have been involved could've been kept quiet for this long?

Conspiracy theorists are like herpies - they keep spreading and you can only treat the symptoms, but never able to cure it. Every time you debunk a theory with a good old *** kicking and facts, they're all of a sudden not responsible for their assertions and go hide under rocks until they can come up with a new conspiracy.
 
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Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
I seriously have the urge to hit someone in the face when they regurgitate random conspiracy crap they saw on the internet without much thought or research when they say stuff like 9/11 is caused by government and all the people on the planes are actually just hiding, and still alive.

Yea, a-hole. Tell the kids and families of those that perished that their mommies and daddies are just playing hide and seek, permanently.
 
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