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A Call for Unity in America

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Stay tuned for the disappointment. :D
(Jeremiah 10:23) I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.
Psalms 146
:)
What am I going to be disappointed about? o_O
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Why didn’t he speak for unity before the election? Why democrats did everything to divide the nation before the election and after Trump was elected?
Biden did not speak of unity before the election because, unlike Trump, he did not take it for-granted that he would win, so how could he unify the nation if he had not won? It would be dishonest to promise to do things that he cannot fulfill.

A two-party nation by its very nature is divisive, but I did not see democrats trying to divide the nation before the election, and certainly not after Biden was elected. However, nobody can make people want to be united if they want to be divided. Nobody can force people to cooperate because humans have free will.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
All your expectations you expressed in your OP. ;)
Didn't you understand the scripture I referenced? Or don't you realize what you said in your OP? :D

I know what I said in my OP. Now please explain why I am going to be disappointed.
Please explain how the following verses are relevant.

(Jeremiah 10:23) I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.
Psalms 146
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Let's give the Trumpers time to mourn before we expect them to come together. In the meantime, I will say nothing mean about them. The demonization has got to stop.

Although I think Biden genuinely wants us to heal and become a United States again, we still have the partisans in Congress who are not willing to let go of vicious enmities, and this is true on both sides.
 

of the soul

New Member
Biden did not speak of unity before the election because, unlike Trump, he did not take it for-granted that he would win, so how could he unify the nation if he had not won
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How much of a Globalist are you? Does the Constitution mean nothing to you, that which gives you right to practice any religion or non at all; Notice this is only within the states. How much more will the whole world corrupt that which is most dearest to the america?

I Wonder Why People Who claim to be Americans wish to make deals with other Nation's? Do we like to get infected with their Rederick? When is enough enough, Hasn't China, Russia and Other Opposing nations already shown their true face. Without Trump the United States will Crumble. Biden simply is a pawn to the Democratic Party, furthermore to the Globalists Who have their own agenda. Your Selling america out just as he is, when your in par with his Nomination. Perhaps you have not seen the Light Trump has shone. Unity means the Defense of the United States will have to lower; With it, Lesser Terrorism; More Corruption. What is better? that Which gets a Grip on Things, or That Which Stands Blindly Their to simply show up. Biden is that Puppet; Showing up. Guess ya havn't heard and seen the news and pictures of Hunter Biden's Laptop, and How the Whole Family of the Biden Play's into it. 47 Years, Now they Making their move; Watch out World, One World Order... One Step Closer, Globalist are coming. You Might not realize the unity that bahai Spoke off, You should read the Quran before Speaking of Bahaism, it is build on These very Scriptures Formost as well as the Render of Other Scriptures.

He Spoke on Unity by the Convention because that what he could lie about to the American People and the Sheep's that were lost in This Pandemic and Rioty Timeframe Which was Democrats Cities letting riots happen to harm Trump in his Reelection and Liberation of the American People. Perchance not all Can handle the Run Trump had for his People. Unitarians Don't Understand Unity. Hence is your Politics basic, Only seen what the partisan media shows; You Should Read up more. See between the Lines and deeper. Trump is the only hope to get America out of the Worldly swamp and Corruption. Yet Another Politician is in Cycle. Wonder What Sorts of Politics he will run. Oh yeah, he is a politician, 47 Years. Read up on the Corruption of the Biden's. Perchance you change your mind about him.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Trump is the only hope to get America out of the Worldly swamp and Corruption. Yet Another Politician is in Cycle. Wonder What Sorts of Politics he will run. Oh yeah, he is a politician, 47 Years. Read up on the Corruption of the Biden's. Perchance you change your mind about him.
Why do you believe that Trump was the only hope to get America out of the Worldly swamp and Corruption?

I am not interested in pitting one candidate against the other because I am not a Democrat or a Republican.
Baha’is vote in local and national elections, but rather than voting along party lines or engaging in elections the way partisans do, Baha’is vote based on the character and the merits of the individual running for office. In this election, the choice was obvious.
 

of the soul

New Member
Why do you believe that Trump was the only hope to get America out of the Worldly swamp and Corruption?

I am not interested in pitting one candidate against the other because I am not a Democrat or a Republican.
Baha’is vote in local and national elections, but rather than voting along party lines or engaging in elections the way partisans do, Baha’is vote based on the character and the merits of the individual running for office. In this election, the choice was obvious.

Perchance your mistaken about character and merit's; Trump had no need to come into the political arena but to Shake Down the American Corruption of DC swamp. Your assumptions about characters and Merit r based on mainstream news that take the Biden's as G-d fearing People. Yet On the contrary, if you see all the Biden's did; you'd be horrified; but that much about misinformed sheep's of people. Furthermore bahai is not america neither it's value; Your based on the political with an iranian value, even if religion is permitted in all forms Within the Liberty of the United States; You speak as if religion is higher then the legislator/tion in one's well being at an global scale. But news is; if politics disgrants you of freedom of religion, no amount of religion would save you; but the internal and external differ. You Might not see that Biden is out to crush the liberty founded of the Constitution. So sit tight and Open ur Eyes.

#whatmadeyouhateamerica

Hunter Biden Hard Drive: Chinese Spy, Mexican Billionaire, Obama's Daughter - QUARTERMASTER NEWS

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the same person Whom Biden is hugging at the so called victory speech Party is the corrupt Son Hunter Biden. the apple does not fall to Far from the tree For starters FYI @ Link, can't post other links due to their rated nature on this platform; read at your own discretion. This is only half the story.

#geteducated .
 
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Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Perchance your mistaken about character and merit's; Trump had no need to come into the political arena but to Shake Down the American Corruption of DC swamp. Your assumptions about characters and Merit r based on mainstream news that take the Biden's as G-d fearing People. Yet On the contrary, if you see all the Biden's did; you'd be horrified; but that much about misinformed sheep's of people. Furthermore bahai is not america neither it's value; Your based on the political with an iranian value, even if religion is permitted in all forms Within the Liberty of the United States; You speak as if religion is higher then the legislator/tion in one's well being at an global scale. But news is; if politics disgrants you of freedom of religion, no amount of religion would save you; but the internal and external differ. You Might not see that Biden is out to crush the liberty founded of the Constitution. So sit tight and Open ur Eyes.

#whatmadeyouhateamerica

Hunter Biden Hard Drive: Chinese Spy, Mexican Billionaire, Obama's Daughter - QUARTERMASTER NEWS

2020-PRESIDENTIAL-ELECTION.jpg

the same person Whom Biden is hugging at the so called victory speech Party is the corrupt Son Hunter Biden. the apple does not fall to Far from the tree For starters FYI @ Link, can't post other links due to their rated nature on this platform; read at your own discretion. This is only half the story.

#geteducated .
To me it obvious that you have been brainwashed by fake news. What verifiable evidence do you have? I like verifiable evidence so please present it. Verifiable evidence comes from reputable news sources.

I think you need to get educated. The Baha'i Faith is not based on any Iranian values. Quite the contrary, Muslims in power were the ones who imprisoned Baha'ul'lah and banished Him from place to place for 40 years, because Bahaullah broke with Islam by bringing new teachings that ran contrary to Islamic Laws and traditions. Moreover, in more recent times and since at least the 1970s Bahais have been persecuted in Iran:

Baháʼí spokespeople, as well as the United Nations, Amnesty International, the European Union, the United States, and peer-reviewed academic literature have stated that the members of the Baháʼí community in Iran have been subjected to unwarranted arrests, false imprisonment, beatings, torture, unjustified executions, ...

Persecution of Baháʼís - Wikipedia

Here are a few of the fundamental teachings of the Baha'i Faith that are aligned with Biden 's values. .
  • The unity of mankind.
  • Equality of men and women.
  • Elimination of all forms of prejudice.
As for America's values, they are divided because 57% of white America voted for Trump. This indicates that racial prejudice is alive and well in America.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I think, after “democrats” have insulted Trump and his supporters a lot, it would be quite difficult take any unity ideas seriously from them. But, I am not legal citizen there, so maybe this is not a problem.
They way Trump threw some of our rights out the window he deserves no respect. It's not hating him to hate it, it's hating him because of the damages and cost in human suffering and lives he has caused. Respect is wasted on such a child of heinous and repulsive character. Sowers of disunity should be insulted for the pigs they are.
This President will be proof you're not getting anyone who will make changes.
Things started changing with just one speech. Things are changing that an actual Covid plan and response is being formulated. Things are changing because Latinos were included in a positive manner and not compared to thieves and rapist and those who came here from Mexico aren't their best. Black people were included rather than racists being included among those who are "good people."
And, really, other than Covid, lots of people don't expect Biden to change much. He's a change that goes back to normal presidential standards. That's all a lot of people want out of him, because Trump has been that horrible.
 
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Father Heathen

Veteran Member
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Does the Constitution mean nothing to you, .
More so than it apparently did to Trump and the GOP, who attempted to wipe their
asses with it.
Republicans have a long history of being anti-freedom; opposing gay marriage, reproductive choice, cannabis legalization, and flag burning, etc. Mandating prayer and pledges, etc.
 

PAUL MARKHAM

Well-Known Member
What am I going to be disappointed about? o_O
Your posts prove Americans are no nearer unity than when Trump was in power.

All you care about is getting a Democrat in the White House, even a bumbling old fool will do so long as it's a Democrat bumbling old fool.

One Nation under god. :facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm:
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
I know what I said in my OP. Now please explain why I am going to be disappointed.
Please explain how the following verses are relevant.

(Jeremiah 10:23) I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.
Psalms 146
Specifics? Sure. No problem.

You said...
My personal life situation leaves a lot to be desired :( but I could not be happier about the results of the election. :)

Admittedly, I was worried on election night when it appeared as if Trump was winning, and after that I was on edge until the picture started to become clearer, but the relief came on Saturday morning when I turned on the news. Biden is clearly calling for unity in America.

This is the beginning of a fulfillment of all my hopes and dreams as a Baha’i because I see it as the beginning of the fulfillment of what Baha’u’llah taught -- the unity of mankind and equality and justice for all regardless of race, religion or gender.


For the last 40 centuries, mankind has been looking to human rulership to satisfy their needs and expectations.
Which rulership has done that for you?

The word of God, through the prophet Jeremiah, reveals the prophet's understanding of the situation - the reality, that man cannot direct his own steps. Man's way does not belong to man.

Strange as that may sound, history shows that to be the case, and God's word tells us why.
Man was not designed to govern himself.
Adam found that out the hard way, but he saw it plainly. He probably never considered his limitations until then.
(Genesis 3:17-19) 17 And to Adam [God] said: “Because you listened to your wife’s voice and ate from the tree concerning which I gave you this command, ‘You must not eat from it,’ cursed is the ground on your account. In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life. 18It will grow thorns and thistles for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field. 19In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.


By choosing to make decisions for themselves, man ran himself into a tangled web of a six foot spider. How?
Man's decisions are not unanimous, as though there were programmed into a chip, and placed in the brains of everyone.

The Limits of Government - pp. 98-101 - David Fromkin

Soaring on the wings of Icarus, the modern world has dreamed that scientific technology can lift it to any heights. Not only technological problems, but social problems as well have been placed on the agenda for technological solution. Like many others, Charles Merriam termed government a technique, and it was typically modern of him to assert that it was a technique that could accomplish anything and everything.

Ancient wisdom suggests a more cautious appraisal of what can be done and a more modest notion of what should be done. Nemesis waits at the crossroads to punish pride and presumption in human beings: This is the theme and lesson of Tragedy, and, in the innocuous form of a banana peel, it is also the prop of Comedy. Tales such as those of Daedalus and of the Tower of Babel caution that there is such a thing as going too high or too far. It might be well to heed the lesson that they teach.
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It is marvelous that some of us can fly to the moon, but frightening that mankind as a whole may be flying so close to the sun: Thus, even if government is thought of as a technology, it would be brashly and shallowly optimistic to say that there is no limitation to what it can do. In fact, governments are not technological devices. They are neither robots, space ships, nor computers Governments are composed of human beings; therefore they are and their prospects are uncertain: They exercise a certain power, but only a limited one. Powers and limitations are precisely what politicians are In the business of evaluating.

All governments are subject to constraints which must be identified, weighed and managed. No government is free to do exactly as it chooses. In regimes that are genuinely constitutional there are effective legal limitations to what the government can do. Even governments that disregard the law have to take account of the practical bounds of their power. There are nuances of limitation and there are naked Imitations: there are Influences and there are forces. A major part of the art and practice of politics consists in determining the strength, direction, kind durability, malleability, and number of forces In play. and then in choosing whether and how to go along with them, neutralize them, oppose them, deflect or divert them, use them, or safely disregard them in order to accomplish what we set out to do.

Politicians are occupationally prone to underestimating what can be accomplished:
The public on the other hand generally tends to overestimate what can be accomplished: choices Between conflicting alternatives are difficult to make, and the voters are disappointed and uncomprehending that they cannot have it several ways. Both the politicians and the public, however, understand that governments do not operate in a vacuum; the experience of practical life shows that no such academic conception corresponds to political reality.

Even the most powerful ministers of the most powerful nations feel keenly that their power to affect events fall within a narrow range.
The lack of sufficient power is an obvious limitation but it is by no means the only one.
There are intellectual limitations as well. These should not occasion any surprise, but every now and again they seem to do so.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Not just the limitations of Government is a factor, but there are more serious hindrances - of which you dismiss.
Jesus said, there is a ruler of this world, and he has no part with that one.
(John 14:30) I will not speak with you much more, for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has no hold on me.
Yet, you do not believe this one to be Satan the Devil. Yet all the Christian - followers of Christ, and his teachings - do. You don't even accept that Satan the Devil is a real entity.
(John 12:31) Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.

Luke
(Luke 4:6) Then the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.

Paul
(2 Corinthians 4:4) . . .the god of this system of things (age) has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, . . .

(Ephesians 6:11, 12) 11 Put on the complete suit of armor from God so that you may be able to stand firm against the crafty acts of the Devil; 12 because we have a struggle, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.

John
(1 John 5:19) We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.
(Revelation 12:7-9) 7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.

Those not keeping separate from the world, as Jesus did, and prayed, and commanded his followers, are all under the rule and authority of the ruler of this world.
For this reason, the Bible "says" that these sleepers will have a "rude awakening" - a grave disappointment indeed.
(1 Thessalonians 5:2-6) 2 For you yourselves know very well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. 3Whenever it is that they are saying, “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a pregnant woman, and they will by no means escape. 4 But you, brothers, you are not in darkness, so that the day should overtake you as it would thieves, 5 for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We belong neither to night nor to darkness. 6So, then, let us not sleep on as the rest do, but let us stay awake and keep our senses.

God's servants - the faithful followers of Christ - true Christians - busy themselves in the work Jesus assigned them to - that of declaring the good news of God's kingdom, as a witness to all the nations, before the end comes. Matthew 24:14
(Romans 10:11-15) 11For the scripture says: “No one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek. There is the same Lord over all, who is rich toward all those calling on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” 14However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him? How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? 15How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!
Hence, Psalms 146

Rather than getting involved in this world, the Christian seek to help save people from the calamity to come upon the world. It is coming, according to Daniel 2:44
It's evident that trying to patch, fix, or save this corrupt dying system, is like trying to fill a bag full of holes, with grain.

Is it not?
Does taking sides of the kings of the inhabited earth, puts us in opposition to the king of God's kingdom.
(Revelation 16:13-16) 13 And I saw three unclean inspired expressions that looked like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and they perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty. 15 “Look! I am coming as a thief. Happy is the one who stays awake and keeps his outer garments, so that he may not walk naked and people look upon his shamefulness.” 16 And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Armageddon.

The government the Christian supports is not man-made, but it is the government set up in heaven, with God's appointed king. Psalms 2. This is the government that will last forever, and solve all man's problems... permanently. Will you not support it?
 
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Trailblazer

Veteran Member
"United" religions would definitely help !
I believe that all religions will unite in the future, but it is a long way off. Meanwhile I think we should do our best to get along with one another in a spirit of unity and harmony.

The reason I believe there will be only one religion in the future is because of what Baha'u'llah wrote below. Logic tells me that if God ordains something, it has to happen eventually.

“That which the Lord hath ordained as the sovereign remedy and mightiest instrument for the healing of all the world is the union of all its peoples in one universal Cause, one common Faith. This can in no wise be achieved except through the power of a skilled, an all-powerful and inspired Physician. This, verily, is the truth, and all else naught but error.”
The Summons of the Lord of Hosts, p. 91
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Your posts prove Americans are no nearer unity than when Trump was in power.

All you care about is getting a Democrat in the White House, even a bumbling old fool will do so long as it's a Democrat bumbling old fool.

One Nation under god. :facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm:
I'm being careful about giving funny ratings, but this was sooooooooo funny.
 
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