A lonely nation: Has the notion of the ‘American way’ promoted isolation across history?

[Hermit Philosopher]

In a democracy, we are the government.

You feel akin with your representatives? That’s great. And rare.
It is my experience that in practice, they seldom share, nor seem to have to care much about their constituents’ predicaments, in order to maintain their support.

Humbly,
Hermit

 

[wellwisher]

So, trying to overthrow our democracy, which Trump and some of his MAGA supporters clearly tried to do, is all fine & dandy with you? What is it about democracy that you hate? Or maybe you just hate America?

At least in the past, I saw that you said you were a Christian, so how can you reconcile that with Trump and his antics? Jesus taught "love one another", and yet what we constantly hear from Trump is hate, hate, and more hate. His own sister, who he says he's closer to than any other person, says his only "morality" is love for himself.

I have nothing against Democracy. I dislike too much Big government power, since Big Government; monarchy, is how Democracy dies. Taxation without representation; Boston Tea Party, which started the Revolutionary War and the fight for Independence was being done by the Democrats in Public Schools. The Parents pay taxes for public education; property taxes. The teachers were sneaking around their back and parents, had no say in terms of the propaganda being taught by Big Government. Parents were being taxed, but had no representation in terms of their children's education. That is not Democracy by a pseudo-Totalitarian state. It is the duty of Citizens in a Democracy to make it right.

Democracy type voting by the citizens, would be more like voting on issues in state referendums. Voting for leaders is not exactly Democracy, if those leaders are corrupt or corruptible. Democracy would be more like all the concerned citizens, able to vote on important national issues, like school choice, or the right to vote on Teachers Unions contracts when they come up. That would expedite and eliminate corruption between Lobbyists; Teachers Unions and Democrat Politicians, who tried to label parents as terrorists. The super rich would get one vote in a genuine Democracy, like everyone else, and not a multiplier vote affect with donation money and rapid minions who vote straight party line. That is not real democracy. Popular vote is throwing the citizens a bone.

In terms of Trump and MAGA, From 2016 on, I saw was one person, who was not a Washington insider, being harassed and bullied by legions of insiders from the Democrat Party, Deep or Bureaucratic state, FBI, high tech, social media, legacy media and all their gullible minions. The legion of bullies still call their one target, the criminal. Gangs of Bullies are criminals, own up to it.

Part of the problem was fake news constantly lied, while never giving credit where credit was due. There is noone in Washington that could have survived what Trump was put through. I feel for the guy and can understand how this would stress anyone, to where you cannot be yourself, accept at MAGA rallies, which were often very light and fun. To the enemy Trump was mean, but he was outnumbered 1000 to 1. Was is he supposed to turn the other cheek so the bullies don't take any flack?

The entire Get Trump movement reminded me a new student to High School, who becomes popular. This causes the self appointed in-crowd, to attack, since they do not want to lose their control of the School. The gang of bullies circle the new guy, and tried everything to break him, shame him, scare him, etc. But Trump was too smart and too tough, which made their gossip and lies get worse and worse.

Luckily for Democracy, so much of the Swamp showed itself when they thought they were King, and could get way with anything, even taking down a duly elected President with lies. Now they are identified and have a target on their back. These people are terrified to think that soon, they may get what they deserve. They still continue their alternate reality scam but fewer and fewer are buying it.

This who topic is about America the feeling of isolation. Wasn't that the goal of the Swamp against Trump. Those types of leaders, who think they can make decisions for all of us, is what has caused the feelings of isolation and now a need to be part of their mob. Did making people, who like MAGA, feel isolated, throughout social media in 2017, make you feel whole? Mean spirited politics can isolate people; Conservatives is College.

 

[metis]

You feel akin with your representatives? That’s great. And rare.
It is my experience that in practice, they seldom share, nor seem to have to care much about their constituents’ predicaments, in order to maintain their support.

Humbly,
Hermit

When we vote, we make the decision of whom we elect, but we also need to remember that we may not get who we want elected, plus whomever is elected may show their "colors" to be putrid. Thus, it may necessitate trying to get them out next term.

As has been said, democracy is a lousy form of government, but it's better than the alternatives.

 

[metis]

I have nothing against Democracy. I dislike too much Big government power, since Big Government; monarchy, is how Democracy dies. Taxation without representation; Boston Tea Party, which started the Revolutionary War and the fight for Independence was being done by the Democrats in Public Schools. The Parents pay taxes for public education; property taxes. The teachers were sneaking around their back and parents, had no say in terms of the propaganda being taught by Big Government. Parents were being taxed, but had no representation in terms of their children's education. That is not Democracy by a pseudo-Totalitarian state. It is the duty of Citizens in a Democracy to make it right.

As one who taught in the public forum, you simply don't know what you're talking about as parental involvement is mandated and frequent. And it seems you are totally unaware that it's especially Trump who advocated "Big Government" with his attempts to override states and even democracy itself. Wow, how in the world could you miss this all-- but you have.

In terms of Trump and MAGA, From 2016 on, I saw was one person, who was not a Washington insider, being harassed and bullied by legions of insiders from the Democrat Party, Deep or Bureaucratic state, FBI, high tech, social media, legacy media and all their gullible minions. The legion of bullies still call their one target, the criminal. Gangs of Bullies are criminals, own up to it.

Part of the problem was fake news constantly lied, while never giving credit where credit was due. There is noone in Washington that could have survived what Trump was put through. I feel for the guy and can understand how this would stress anyone, to where you cannot be yourself, accept at MAGA rallies, which were often very light and fun. To the enemy Trump was mean, but he was outnumbered 1000 to 1. Was is he supposed to turn the other cheek so the bullies don't take any flack?

The above is so pathetically nonsensical. Tell us, was anyone "harassed" on January 6th? Over 130 police were injured and some died, and it is now very obvious that Trump was behind this in large part. What about Trump's comments during some of his rallies whereas he actually said demonstrators should be roughed up and told police to "don't be so nice" at one of his rallies?

So, between Trump and Jesus, pick one because you can't have both. Jesus' message to "love one another" is absent from Trump's rallies and mannerisms. However, it appears you've already made your choice, and unfortunately so.

 

[wellwisher]

When we vote, we make the decision of whom we elect, but we also need to remember that we may not get who we want elected, plus whomever is elected may show their "colors" to be putrid. Thus, it may necessitate trying to get them out next term.

As has been said, democracy is a lousy form of government, but it's better than the alternatives.

The US is a not a Democracy. We are a Representative Republic. We vote for people to Represent us, instead of vote on issues like one would do in a genuine Democracy. In a Democracy we are each leaders in a microcosm.

A Representative Republic made sense in 1780 until maybe 1998; Windows 98, since distances were vast and the people had to earn a living and be represented. The logistics were not there to do both. But today with social media and the internet are advanced, so you could research and vote from the comfort of your home at any time of day. This way we could avoid being forced to vote for a person, you may or may not like, but who is the only one offered by your party, who may or may not have your best interests in mind.

What I would do, so people could vote in a real Democracy, is to have everyone who wishes to vote, take an objectivity exam to make sure we have adults and not trained horses voting with blinder down party line. The test demonstrates you know the best arguments from all reasonable sides. It can be pass/fail and can be taken as many times as needed to pass, up to the vote deadline.

Some will still be trained horses, who can pass but stay dogmatic, but all will at least have to learn something new or show they can be rational. You needed an educated voter or else group propaganda will try to form a different type of Representative Republic, they is even more money and power driven than the Representative Republic.

 

[wellwisher]

As one who taught in the public forum, you simply don't know what you're talking about as parental involvement is mandated and frequent. And it seems you are totally unaware that it's especially Trump who advocated "Big Government" with his attempts to override states and even democracy itself. Wow, how in the world could you miss this all-- but you have.


The above is so pathetically nonsensical. Tell us, was anyone "harassed" on January 6th? Over 130 police were injured and some died, and it is now very obvious that Trump was behind this in large part. What about Trump's comments during some of his rallies whereas he actually said demonstrators should be roughed up and told police to "don't be so nice" at one of his rallies?

So, between Trump and Jesus, pick one because you can't have both. Jesus' message to "love one another" is absent from Trump's rallies and mannerisms. However, it appears you've already made your choice, and unfortunately so.

One thing that still bothers me is there was plenty of warning notice, that something was going to happen that day, but Nancy Pelosi, who was the Speaker of the House at the time, in charge of House security, did not heed the warning and beef up security, to make it safe. This could have been avoided. Had it been avoid, the Democrats would have not had the optics to get Trump.

If Trump stoking the flames was true, why wasn't Pelosi more afraid and more defensive and proactive? Did the Democrats assume Trump is loud but toothless, and the Right was normally peaceful, or did they want the riot to happen, so it could be used and spun against Trump? This is my guess based on their patterns of behavior. During the Russian Collusion they had a fake dossier that gave them an excuse to over trial Trump.

Why wasn't Pelosi asked to explain her choice, not to secure the Capital, several days before the demonstration? Did the Democrats benefit by her choice? The Democrats, after Pelosi dropped the ball, would go to lead fake news for months, while skillfully avoiding any cross examination of Pelosi.

What is also interesting was the King of Liars, Adam Schiff who led the Russian Collusion Delusion Coup and scam would be chosen to lead the Jan 6 Committee. Why would the Dems put their king of liars to head the Jan 6 Committee? Why not pick someone with more character? They needed the best scum bag to make it work. Too many people were railroaded for minor roles, while key FBI rabble rouses were never questioned.

 

[metis]

The US is a not a Democracy. We are a Representative Republic.

"Democracy" is a general category, and there are various forms of democracy that includes "representative democracy": Democracy - Wikipedia

One thing that still bothers me is there was plenty of warning notice, that something was going to happen that day, but Nancy Pelosi, who was the Speaker of the House at the time, in charge of House security, did not heed the warning and beef up security, to make it safe.

Oh, so now it's Pelosi's fault, eh? Maybe you didn't get the memo that it was up to the president to call out the National Guard as the Speaker only has that power if the president and vice president are unavailable. It took Trump four hours before he finally told his insurrectionists to leave the Capitol, but it's Pelosi's fault!

What is also interesting was the King of Liars, Adam Schiff who led the Russian Collusion Delusion Coup and scam would be chosen to lead the Jan 6 Committee.

They needed the best scum bag to make it work.

"Nice" name-calling, which any good parent tells his/her children not to do because it's childish and immoral. But then, you don't really seem to care about that.

And to repeat from a previous post, Mueller did not seek to deal with the Russian collusion as a criminal investigation as that was beyond the scope he chose. And maybe you don't remember that Trump at one of his rallies asked the Russians to release 30,000 of Hillary's e-mails, and they were put out publicly that very same night!

Too many people were railroaded for minor roles, while key FBI rabble rouses were never questioned.

Oh yes, they've been questioned, but if you read/watch only right-wing sources you'd likely not know this.

 

[anna.]

it's especially Trump who advocated "Big Government" with his attempts to override states and even democracy itself.

He's still working towards that dictatorship dream even if it's fevered pipe dream.

Donald J. Trump and his allies are planning a sweeping expansion of presidential power over the machinery of government if voters return him to the White House in 2025, reshaping the structure of the executive branch to concentrate far greater authority directly in his hands.

 

[wellwisher]

He's still working towards that dictatorship dream even if it's fevered pipe dream.

Donald J. Trump and his allies are planning a sweeping expansion of presidential power over the machinery of government if voters return him to the White House in 2025, reshaping the structure of the executive branch to concentrate far greater authority directly in his hands.

This a Democrat Party projection. They have this tendency to project their own views onto others to hide their own deceptive intentions. Trump was blamed for Russian Collusion, when it was Hillary that hired a Russian to write the fake dossier; projected collusion. The criminals did harm and escaped this way, but not this time.

For example, the state of Texas is trying to defends it border with a floating barrier along the river that divide Texas from Mexico. Biden is using Big Government and the lopsided injustice system to prevent them. State's rights allow states to control their territory and Big Government should butt out.

Trump want to make the government smaller, which is the biggest fear of the Swamp. In his first term, the bureaucratic state had to get rid of three laws for every new one they added. This is not how you grow government. Look to Biden and Democrats for that. Wasn't Biden the one who wanted to add 30,000 IRS agents to harass Americans. He could have chose to simplify the tax code, to make less work, but that would shrink government. The Conservative Congress, which prefers small government, defunded expanding the IRS. They would prefer simplify the tax code, so fewer IRS people are needed; less loopholes to audit. Democrats love loopholes.

The key to seeing through all future and past Democrats scams, is to assume a projection is being used, for cover. When the projection blame game starts, find Waldo; Where's Waldo. They keep using the same playbook. You guys need to change it up this is getting boring.

The main problem Democrats now have is internal. There are now many Democrats wanting third party candidates, because those in charge are not staying true to the Classic Democrat Party Principles. A small band of radicals have hijacked the party. They play dirty, but an internal resistance is forming. Kennedy is bring treated like they did Trump; full court pressure. The snake is swallowing its own tail, showing they will eat their own if they disagree.

 

[metis]

For example, the state of Texas is trying to defends it border with a floating barrier along the river that divide Texas from Mexico. Biden is using Big Government and the lopsided injustice system to prevent them. State's rights allow states to control their territory and Big Government should butt out.

So, mutilating people seeking help is somehow "Christian"? So, ignoring the Constitution is somehow "patriotic"?